Chris Wilson Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Had a Supra in with a single on, and the owner had had a raft of different people *iss about with electrics, fuelling, "mapping" blah blah, and he himself had screwed a lot of it together. The whole thing was a bleedin' mess, but I was less than pleased when it attempted to set fire to my workshop, and I got burnt putting the engine bay out. Turns out he had priced some injector seals up, decided they were too expensive, and rifled the O ring box at his local hardware store. The reason the correct ones are expensive is that they are FUEL RESISTANT, don't swell and split, and don't set light to the &%$@ing car. So please, if you don't want your machine to be the next insurance claim, refer to the correct info before deciding that an O ring is an O ring. Maybe look here: http://www.marcorubber.com/material_chart.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Oops, so not all Supra's are a dream to work on ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markrzs Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Nasty Chris ! Anyone from here ? P.s hope you not badley burnt ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hope your ok! Hope no other supras were damaged... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yikes! Hope everything's ok Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Are you ok mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 what kind of A@$ hole puts normal O rings on a car. only j/k. Hope your not to burnt Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattooman Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I can't believe some people that try to do a performance car like a Supra on a shoestring budget. If they can't afford O RINGS they shouldn't own a flippin' SUPRA:bang: :bang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 what about 'bling' silicon hoses that are not supposed to have hot liquids flowing through them? ...or 'uprated' fuel rails that have not been tested in an environment with vibrations - so they develop tiny cracks spraying fuel mist under pressure? [/killjoy] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Are you referring to any rails in particular John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'm fine, I had a proper extinguisher to hand, first time I have had to use one in years, but it makes you glad you DO have one, know where it is, and it's working... Little damage to the bay, just some charred insulation on the injector loom and a LOT of powder mess from the extinguisher. Thankfully I killed the engine as soon as flames were seen and heard, as putting out a rail still under pressure is a not an easy task, I'm led to believe. So a near total write off due to saving literally a few quid on the wrong bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Glad you're ok Chris - and the workshop survived! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Ditto DanDan, Good you are OK Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 So he'll be getting a juicy bill then Chris? Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 Nah, I felt sorry for the lad, he was on a tight budget, bought a load of *hit off Ebay, got various "mates" to do stuff, most appallingly badly, some criminally insane stuff, and generally he was having his first lesson in why complex cars that cost 30 plus K new in the early 90's are NOT cheap to mod and tune properly. Been there myself, know the feeling, took pity and sent him on his way via Relay. He can't afford to sort it at the moment, so he's sitting tight until he decideds the best way forward, (probably another fire, but at his gaff, not mine...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 He was there when it went up? I'd love to have been there when you walked in with extinguisher powder all over you, soot on your face and eyebrows singed saying "there's been a little problem". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 so he's sitting tight until he decideds the best way forward, (probably another fire, but at his gaff, not mine...) lol not really what you want to happen in your workshop, glad your ok and well equiped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Just checked that website as I was going to be looking for o'rings for my fuel system over the next day or two, so this is excellent timing for me. Not so for you though. Anyway I'm a bit confused. On the materials table they say that "Buna N" o'rings only rate a 3 with regards to fuels (3 meaning poor). However if you click on "Buna N" material it says Standard Nitrile is also known as Buna-N. Excellent resistance to petroleum-based oils and fuels, water and alcohols. So what's it to be good or no good? Perhaps it's this kind of confusion that ends up with people with poorly matched components. Seriously though, anyone know what o'rings I shoud be using, and also if there is a UK supply of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 erm... can someone PM me a price for some injector seals please? /shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I'd love to have been there when you walked in with extinguisher powder all over you, soot on your face and eyebrows singed saying "there's been a little problem". Glad you are OK Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Try these:- From what I can tell the nitrile ones will be fine:- http://www.altecweb.com/home.asp?thesearch=o+ring+kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I pinched mine from work Do you still need a metal o ring to sit the injectors in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 A metal O ring??? Do you mean the metal collett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Yeah that sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Nah, I felt sorry for the lad, he was on a tight budget, bought a load of *hit off Ebay, got various "mates" to do stuff, most appallingly badly, some criminally insane stuff, and generally he was having his first lesson in why complex cars that cost 30 plus K new in the early 90's are NOT cheap to mod and tune properly. Been there myself, know the feeling, took pity and sent him on his way via Relay. He can't afford to sort it at the moment, so he's sitting tight until he decideds the best way forward, (probably another fire, but at his gaff, not mine...) You felt sorry for him and told him to 'go forth...' love it! Now I see why you talked me out of big singles last year, and why you've seen so many go "bang". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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