Alex Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 OK we know about the kits, but I've also seen some other bizarre ways of hooking up an air intake system. This includes dual pipes/filters, pipes with MAF bypasses on them (whatever they are) and pipes being fed into various different areas of the car. I know that putting the air induction unit in the air duct under the drivers headlight is best but would it also be good to have one intake in the usual place at the same time (using a sort of Y pipe) and then use a VPC(? is that the device I need to allow more air to flow) to boost the air intake volume to make sure there is never a shortage of air not matter what size of turbo configuration I use. Your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wall Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 The main problem with induction kits is you loose the stock system’s ability to draw in ambient air from out side the car. If you had a Y option system as you describe, you would have a mixture of hot under bonnet air and ambient, this would give some advantage but probably not worth the effort of expense. I would think it best to go for a system that gives access to ambient air only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 The main problem with induction kits is you loose the stock system’s ability to draw in ambient air from out side the car. If you had a Y option system as you describe, you would have a mixture of hot under bonnet air and ambient, this would give some advantage but probably not worth the effort of expense. I would think it best to go for a system that gives access to ambient air only. What do you mean you lose ambient air from outside the car, someone explain please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Ambient air, is the temp of the air outside the car. Ie if its 16 degrees on a sunny day, then thats the ambient air temp. What you don't want is hot air from the engine bay, being sucked in at all possible. Think thats right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 New record for a thread resurrection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I have haerd some people building housing around the induction kit to feed in more ambient air.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Wow, it's dusty in this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 http://www.max-boost.co.uk/stuff/jesus_resurrection_clouds_heaven_lg_clr.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 ??, the reason im asknig is because I have noticed a lil dip in performance since I had my induction kit fitted, could it be the engine heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 More than likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 ??, the reason im asknig is because I have noticed a lil dip in performance since I had my induction kit fitted, could it be the engine heat? Yes, refit the standard airbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 God damn it...don't bring up threads that make me look thick!!! VPC on a J-spec laughable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 New record for a thread resurrection? I rather think so I looked at it a few times before i noticed the date! It was odd to see Alex referring to an actual car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So basically, would it be possible to build a custom airbox around the induction kit? so that thier is more fresh air, Or could the current induction kit be modified/ extended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 So basically, would it be possible to build a custom airbox around the induction kit? so that thier is more fresh air, Or could the current induction kit be modified/ extended? Yes you can do that to a slight advantage, have you got a FMIC? if so then you can also use a piece of large bore flexible hose and drill a hole through the side of the inner wing or the bottom of it, and make use of the intake for the side mount IC, or you could just replace the std air box;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 nope I dont have an intercooler, I have a Apexi Induction kit, and took all the original housing off, I remember a while ago i read somethink about someone who build a heatshield around the induction kit, used some heat replelant material or something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 If you haven't got the SMIC space empty for induction use, then it's best to fit the stock airbox back. Don't believe the hype, these 'performance' kits are about lookz and noiz at the expense of on-road performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 If you haven't got the SMIC space empty for induction use, then it's best to fit the stock airbox back. Don't believe the hype, these 'performance' kits are about lookz and noiz at the expense of on-road performance. He's got the space, it's an N/A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz supra Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Just make a decent heatsheild and cold air feed and you will not suffer heatsoak, TT maybe a different story as poss more heat under the bonnet, Personal experience and trying both standard box and Induction kit with my own design cold feed and heatsheild has seen much better performance and pick up and mid range in my NA, This has been debated a while ago, Mycar responds better.. yours may not.. Try it.. if its worse simply refit your standard box, you lose nothing .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 He's got the space, it's an N/A. ah, so I guess performance is not top of the agenda then Only kidding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I was expecting to see Indiana Jones in this thread. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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