neo1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi all, Has anyone got a photo they can post of the Crank pulley removal tool (to stop the pulley moving or stressing the crank when cracking the bolt) This would be very helpfull, just need an idea so i can produce one tonight to get my wrecked old pully off and my fresh new one on. Have looked at the posts from before but can't see any photos of the tool. Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 i used a mini flywheel puller (just what was laying around ). i noticed them in halfords the other day, they may have a pic on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlam Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 eyefi i think is looking for the tool to hold the crank pulley, while the crank bolt is undone ?. We locked up the flywheel,and used this kit to take the crank pulley off,and it works just fine. http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=040211223&r=2076&g=111 Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 eyefi i think is looking for the tool to hold the crank pulley, while the crank bolt is undone ?. ahh, something to stop the crank rotating, that'll be the gearbox then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 And for the auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 lock the tc or lock the pulley to the block with a bar and bolts. i'd hate to try and hold the pulley still with a grip while trying to exert 300 odd ft/lbs on the bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Lock the TC how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 yep, to stop it rotating.... Sorry i was not that clear.... was in a bit of a rush. I know the manual gearbox and crank can put up with a lot of abuse but is it really a wise idea to undo this bolt by just putting the car in gear with the hand brake on ? One person i know that works for T*y**a said just to put the braker bar on the floor and turn the engine over once on the ignition.... he said it works every time :s Hmm, i really think this is not good for the Crank Any comments welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I know the manual gearbox and crank can put up with a lot of abuse but is it really a wise idea to undo this bolt by just putting the car in gear with the hand brake on ? it takes alot more abuse daily One person i know that works for T*y**a said just to put the braker bar on the floor and turn the engine over once on the ignition.... he said it works every time :s Hmm, i really think this is not good for the Crank yeah i does work, but like you i dont like the idea of it. i'd use it as a last resort. i got it off reasonably easily with a 6ft scaffold bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Lock the TC how? 3/4 drive air gun, no need to lock anything up, or remove starter and weld up some sort of angle iron jobbie to lock the flywheel or flex plate teeth. Buy or make something akin to the Toyota tool to lock the pulley via the holes in its hub. there are a couple of other ways on SF that i can't remember or be bothered to search out (some involve jamming blocks of wood in there - i'm not condoning any of these methods and i have no experience of using any of them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Exactly! what kind of a fucking post is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 All done What a right PITA that was Took photos and will do a write up if anyone is interested... Makes life so much more simple to take the rad out (2 min job) gives you pleanty of room for a good puller to fit etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Has anyone got a photo of what they use to properly brace the pulley ? I still need to torque it uo correctly :thumbdown I have tried the 1st gear and brakes method and it just wong get the torque wrench to click as there is not enough room with the extension bar on it Really need to stop the pulley dead with this funny self made tool people go on about. Please just one photo someone !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'll take a pic of the one I made if you promise not to laugh. It's a very simple Y shaped bit of box section steel. It's not pretty but it works well enough. Cost about £6 from B&Q for the materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'll take a pic of the one I made if you promise not to laugh. It's a very simple Y shaped bit of box section steel. It's not pretty but it works well enough. Cost about £6 from B&Q for the materials. Sweet, that would be good cheers.... Were you bolting into the stock two holes either side of the Key-way or were you drilling into anything :S Just to make sure 'this is the DIY tool people have used / made to hold the Crank and pully in place so at to be able to apply the correct 239 lbs/ft of Torque ! Also what colour thread-lock should be used on a bolt this big ? Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Dont drill anything!!! Thats what the 2 spare hols are for. locknseal is not required as the rotating engine tightens it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Dont drill anything!!! Thats what the 2 spare hols are for. locknseal is not required as the rotating engine tightens it.... Problem is wading through all the bad ideas...... I would NEVER drill anything, just wanted to know why people did and where they did The holes either side of the Key-Way are for a crank pulley extractor to fit (for removing the pullley from the shaft)..... If these two holes are also being used for a brace, would the thin bolts used really be strong enough to cope with that torque setting without bending or sheering ???? The Bolt is a clockwise tightening thread and the engine rotates clockwise ...... Doesnt that mean the rotation of the engine will try to UNDO the bolt.... not tighten it ? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I didn't use any loctite and there wasn't any on either of the two crank pulley's I've removed recently. Here's a snap of the tool I knocked up to hold the pulley still: http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6281/p10100297qp.th.jpg Heath Robinson has got nothing on me. As you can see it uses the bolt holes in the pulley. I couln't see any other way to do it. Make sure the tool meets the pulley flush like this otherwise the bolts into the pulley will bend: http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9528/p10100318mi.th.jpg and also that the box section spans across the recessed hole in the pulley face. This also helps the tool to stay flat against the pulley. http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8328/p10100359og.th.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1 Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Supurb.... I will lash one up tonight What type / size bolts did you use ? Just wondering about the thread etc..... Thank you for your help Jake Just one of those moments where you are sure you know what people are going on about but without a picture you have a few doubts. Let me know about the bolt sizes Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 IIRC they are M8 x 1.25, not 100% sure on that but they are whatever thread fits the crank pulley. I just found a bolt that was the right thread to fit the pulley and went out and bought a load of nuts and bolts with that thread pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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