SteveR Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Places remaining: 0 (let me know if you want to go on the reserves list in case anyone drops out) mkivSupra.net Track Day - Saturday 4th October LLandow Circuit (Near Cardiff) "A technically challenging circuit with both left and right hand bends" Details: The track has been exclusively hired by mkivSupra.net Strictly 40 places maximum. First come: first served No more than 10 cars are allowed out on track at any one time Professional staff on site to manage the day, give safety briefings, marshalling, etc, PLUS a paramedic On-site cafe will be open throughout the day If traders wanted to come along and pimp their services/products/demo cars - all the better! Please PM me. Spectators / club members who'd rather just watch are more than welcome! Closed-wheeled cars only: if its got mudguards, it counts as closed wheel. Circuit Details: Length: 1450m Width: 9m "In consideration to the local community, we operate a self imposed noise limit of 105db absolute maximum" Location (click) Distance from: Cardiff - 20 miles A48 / B4268 Bristol - 60 miles M4 / A48 / B4268 Birmingham - 123 miles M5 / M50 / A4119 / M4 / A48 / B4268 London - 160 miles M4 / A48 / B4268 [*]There are plenty of accomodation options nearby for those who would be travelling a distance; also a perfect excuse for evening after-track activities as a club Costs: Driving Participants: £70 per car Spectating: FREE! Passengering: FREE! SAFETY / RULES: Before using the circuit all participants MUST: Sign an Indemnity form Provide a full driving licence Be physically fit Be a competent driver (and hold a UK licence - bring it with you!) Wear an approved* helmet. Arms and legs must be covered at all times. * = Specifically for car use. Details are being sent to me and will follow when I have them. Approx cost to buy:£40~£50 The track also has 10 helmets available for hire at a cost of £20 each for the day; credit card swipe taken as deposit against damage/loss. [*]No participants taking part shall have consumed or taken alcohol or any drug that will impair your ability to drive. [*]Participants must not race or compete against any other user. [*]The use of any form of 'official' timing equipment is not permitted. (circuit's liability insurance does not cover competition/racing) [*]Reckless or dangerous driving is expressly forbidden and anyone disobeying this rule may be asked to leave. [*]All participants on track days at Llandow Circuit MUST attend the Safety Briefing. This instruction will include: Rules of the day Flag Signals Entering and exiting the circuit Overtaking and being overtaken Driving/riding discipline Circuit layout and potentially hazardous sections Paddock driving/riding Breakdown/incident procedures Session stopping [*]Overtaking should only take place on the straights or exiting the bends. No overtaking in the bends and no cutting inside whilst approaching the bend. [*]A speed limit of 5mph applies at all times in the circuit paddock and the pit lane. Participants must ensure that their vehicle is safe and fit for the purpose that it will be used for on the circuit. Mot/tax/road legal tyres are not required; but the car must be deemed "safe" inline with the above comment. Although no scrutineering will take place, any cars deemed unsafe by the marshals (e.g. spotted dropping fluids) will be sent back to the pits. Draft Schedule: 8:30am gates open 9:10am sign-on 9:30am Driver briefing given over tannoy system Drivers split into groups of 10 based on experience/car/power/etc: 1st group of 10 are lead out on 2~3 controlled sighting laps to gain confidence. Pace car peels off, drivers find their own pace. Approx 15~20 mins session Repeat for the other 3 groups of 10 cars [*]At this point everyone knows the track, and to maximise the on-track time available the circuit will revert to an 'open pitlane' operation. Always 10 cars maximum on-track at any one time. [*]5pm close. [*]Saturday evening - party on down at a local campsite/hotel? Flags: The circuit uses the following flags: Chequered Flag = the end of the session Yellow Flag = extreme caution and no overtaking Black Flag = return to the paddock and report to the Control Tower Red Flag = session has been stopped. Slow down, return to paddock or assemble at the Bus Stop runoff. Please note: FULL PAYMENT, AND FULL PAYMENT ALONE, SECURES YOUR PLACE. No refunds can be given unless a replacement (I shall run a 'reserves' list) can take your place. If you do something stupid enough to get ejected from the day (apparently that takes some doing!), or your car suffers a breakdown; or you don't turn up on the day - no refund will be given. OK OK, I'm in: Updated 14th August: Sorry, all places now taken. PM me if you want to be on the reserve list. Check you meet the above requirements and are happy with the rules etc etc etc etc - you participate at your own risk and reciept of payment will be deemed to mean you have read & understand everything involved. Send £70 per car via PayPal to the club PayPal account (PayPal account is [email protected]) with "LLandow " as the reference. Click here for alternative payment methods. Once you've done that, send me a PM with ALL of the following info: Your username Any PayPal reference/email/etc details you are given when paying so I can tie-up who's paid with what payment Driver's full (real) name Make/model of vehicle Vehicle registration Basic vehicle specification (bhp is enough; or "BPU Supra", NA Supra, Single Turbo, etc) Driver's approx track experience: None, beginner (limited experience), amateur (numerous tracks/days), pro (compete) I will then add your name to the "PAID" list; here in post #3. If you just want to spectate, that's cool, simply PM me and I'lll add you to that list instead - just so i have an idea of number and everyone can see who's coming. Calendar entry here; please RSVP. Edited September 17, 2008 by SteveR updating # of places remaining (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) FAQ Q1. What if it rains? A1. Ensure your windows are closed to avoid getting wet. Drive a little slower; traction will be reduced. Q2. Will there be any tuition available? A2. A full safety/rules briefing will be given, so no track-day tuition is necessary for even a beginner to track their car safely. Q3. Insurance? A3. The track have full liabilty insurance for any mistake THEY make. I am told that minor damage YOU may cause to armco/walls/buildings, they 'accept' as a fact of life and let it go. However you are NOT covered for any damage YOU cause to your car or anyone else's; if this concerns you, the track recommend "Competition Car Insurance" as apparently they know the track well and usually offer a good price. Q4. Passengers? A4. Are allowed; they must meet the same requirements are drivers (bar the driving license), have a helmet and must also sign the indemnity form. Passengers must be 12 or over, and there is a height limit; they still don't seem too sure what that height is, however. Q5. Alcohol allowed on site? (e.g. for those only spectating) A5. No. A strict ban is in place. Q6. Are cameras allowed in the cars? A6. Yes but they must be SECURE. No hand-helds; proper camera mounts or permenant installations, only. Q7. Is a (full) EU driving license ok? A7. Yes. Q8. How is the noise limit tested? A8. Drive-by, not sure what distance. Q9. What spec/regulation(s) do helmets need to meet? A9. Helmets won't be inspected More seriously, the track will allow anything that YOU think is up to the job of protecting your head in the event of a crash. Obvious sub-standard kit won't be allowed; skiiing/BMX helmets and the like for example. Overall it is YOUR responsibility to ensure YOUR headgear is up to the job. Helmets can be hired on the day for a small fee. 7Z1ZbLwblaI -K8kSVe8gYw Edited October 13, 2008 by SteveR removing info pack after event (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) PAID UP Participants: 01. SteveR - Supra 02. Ian R - Supra 03. cheekymonkey - Supra 04. M5W TT - Supra 05. Ryan.G - MR2 06: Duncan - 328i (NB: was Gaz1) 07. Muffleman - TBD: Supra or Skyline R32 08. JamieP - Supra 09. Jake - M3 10. Ponty Boy - Supra (NB: Was HJM) 11: downimpact - Supra 12. JustGav - Supra 13. jaymdee - Supra 14. vvteye - Supra 15. broome - 200SX (NB: was Pixelfill) 16. Trig - Supra 17. Henk - Supra 18. Ark - Supra 19. hogmaw - Supra 20. TNT - Supra 21. b'have - Supra 22. Firestorm - Supra (NB: was Wez) 23. Pig - Supra 24. AlexM - Supra 25. lockys96 - MR2 26. Rich8v - Supra 27. Tim_B - RX7 28. Chris Wilson - Zeus 29. Scooter - Supra 30. Fearless - Supra 31. Bignum - Supra 32. Dave F - Supra 33. 'Mrs Ark' - Impreza WRX 34. rossotron - mkIII Supra (NB: Was SimonGTR) 35. Pete - Supra 36. rush - Supra 37. AndyBandit - Impreza WRX STi 38. Sevenman - 290bhp SAAB 9000 39. Little num - Supra 40. Genesis - 2.9 Sierra Reserves: (will be consulted when the above list is full but someone drops out) 01. 02. 03. Spectators: 01. Homer + 1 02. Tom S 03. Mawby 04. mr lover +2 05. Jazzy 06. 07. 08 ... NB: There is no need to list EVERY attendee, just forum members; whether spectating or participating, passengers don't need to be listed. Edited October 1, 2008 by SteveR Updating attendees (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Add your name to the "PAID" list Just a suggestion, from previous experience; wouldn't it be better if you added the names of the people that have actually paid to Post #3 rather than folks keep adding their names to an increasingly boring and confusing list with guys keep missing each other out and suchlike? Just a suggestion like. Great work though Steve. Thanks very much for your hard work so far - I'm sure you've got lots more to come! (more than you probably realise ATM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Just a suggestion, from previous experience; wouldn't it be better if you added the names of the people that have actually paid to Post #3 rather than folks keep adding their names to an increasingly boring and confusing list with guys keep missing each other out and suchlike? Just a suggestion like. EDIT (changed my mind already) - good point, let's do that. Great work though Steve. Thanks very much for your hard work so far - I'm sure you've got lots more to come! (more than you probably realise ATM) I'm a project manager; organising is in my blood; bring it on lol Thanks for the thanks. Can't wait to show you how awesome the Supra is now I've had it geo'd -I take it you're up for a passenger lap (and tracking the CSL?) Edited May 28, 2008 by SteveR (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I'm a project manager; organising is in my blood Go that one step further and use the calendar feature too then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Go that one step further and use the calendar feature too then. Ahem. Keep up Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekymonkey Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Paid Any idea how strict they are about helmets though? I already have a perfectly good helmet (a motorbike one) that was fine for Castle Combe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Paid Any idea how strict they are about helmets though? I already have a perfectly good helmet (a motorbike one) that was fine for Castle Combe... Same here, but apparently they insist on car-specific "approved" helmets. I'll get details of the standard(s) they want them to meet in the next couple of weeks (when the key chief marshal is about) and will post them up. For £20, hiring one isn't a bad backup plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 How do we pay if we're not slaves to ebay's evil-empire in the form of paypal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) How do we pay if we're not slaves to ebay's evil-empire in the form of paypal? Hmm I shall ask in the events mod section if we can pay via bank transfer somehow... Here we go: OPTION 1: It is preferable for people to pay by PayPal - it's easier to track and it shows up instantly. OPTION 2: Cheques are the next easiest to track. OPTION 3: Then Bank Transfer as a final resort. Whatever you do, MAKE SURE you put the required reference and PM me the info I ask for above. Payments by Cheque Please make cheques payable to "The mkiv Supra Owners Club" and send them to... mkiv Supra Owners Club PO Box 3322 Littlehampton BN16 9EQ Please remember to put your membership name (forum login ID) and a return address on the back of the cheque otherwise we may not be able to match it to your account. Direct Money Transfer You can pay directly in to the club bank account. Please note you must ensure you enter your mkiv Supra Owners Club login name AND "Llandow" as the reference for the transfer (e.g. SteveR Llandow). If this is not done we have no way of knowing who has paid and you will forfeit your payment as there is no other means of tracking your payment. It is also essential that you contact Homer when you have made the payment so we know to look out for it. The bank details are as follows: REMOVED POST EVENT Edited December 29, 2009 by SteveR (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Could you please find out more details on the noise limit test. I'm not sure but i might be able to pass this if the test is done when the car is turned off Is it a stand 1m behind car and rev to 4k? (is it 4k) and do they have a drive by test that i would need to lift off for? Thanks Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Could you please find out more details on the noise limit test. I'm not sure but i might be able to pass this if the test is done when the car is turned off Is it a stand 1m behind car and rev to 4k? (is it 4k) and do they have a drive by test that i would need to lift off for? Thanks Jon Hiya Jon, I will ask, but I suspect they won't be keen on us doing anything to try and get round the limit; it's a family run setup in a small rural community - I think the spirit of the "absolute limit" is just that; if your car makes more than 105dB [at any point] it's too loud for the track/local community. The 'Ring has a 95dB limit; as do most UK tracks unless they run a 'noisey day' at ~102dB. 105dB is vvvvvvvvvvvverrrrrrrrrrrry loud (a +3dB difference is a doubling in energy). I'll ask how they measure it and you can take to from there; I'm sure there will be ways of getting your car quieter if needs be; either temporarily or more permenantly (I'm going to plumb my wastegate back into the exahust and then into a custom silencer - but then I need it to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Hiya Jon, I will ask, but I suspect they won't be keen on us doing anything to try and get round the limit; it's a family run setup in a small rural community - I think the spirit of the "absolute limit" is just that; if your car makes more than 105dB [at any point] it's too loud for the track/local community. The 'Ring has a 95dB limit; as do most UK tracks unless they run a 'noisey day' at ~102dB. 105dB is vvvvvvvvvvvverrrrrrrrrrrry loud (a +3dB difference is a doubling in energy). I'll ask how they measure it and you can take to from there; I'm sure there will be ways of getting your car quieter if needs be; either temporarily or more permenantly (I'm going to plumb my wastegate back into the exahust and then into a custom silencer - but then I need it to be I am saving for a setup like charlie and wez but dont know if i will have it done this season or not. I fitted an apexi butterfly valve into the exhaust but it doesnt really do much. (would help for a static test) Im pretty dam sure that as soon as i got on the track and opened up i would be sent off with any noise limit. Will make my way to the drawing board and get a break down of costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 I am saving for a setup like charlie and wez but dont know if i will have it done this season or not. I fitted an apexi butterfly valve into the exhaust but it doesnt really do much. (would help for a static test) Im pretty dam sure that as soon as i got on the track and opened up i would be sent off with any noise limit. Will make my way to the drawing board and get a break down of costs. I'm expecting ITRO £350 to over what I plan to have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Steve if you clear some space I can PM you the details edit: pm'ed as well. username: M5W TT PayPal reference: #1F915536WY2615917 Driver's name: Michael Simon Ward Make/model: Toyota Supra Vehicle registration: M5W TT Basic vehicle specification: BPU Supra Driver's approx track experience: None Edited May 28, 2008 by T2 MSW (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 ooh bugger. I'll go have another of my weekly clearouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Steve if you clear some space I can PM you the details Ditto username: Ryan.g PayPal reference: #1EL153866D8163615 Driver's name: Ryan Griffiths Make/model: Formula 27 Vehicle registration: VU02UVV Basic vehicle specification: Single turbo Eater Driver's approx track experience: F1 amateur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 There should be room now, I've deleted 40 odd PMs already - still shovelling more into the bin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Money sent and pm'd details:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Payment sent, will PM details later mate. My concern is noise, so I will register the Supra but may have to change it to the Skyline nearer the date. Not sure how i will test for noiselevel with the wastegate open, but I'll sort something out Looking forward to this Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Money sent and pm'd details:) For 10 days (until 7th June) this opportunity is only open to paid-up members of mkivSupra.net who drive Supras - only. For 1 month after that (7th June -> 7th July), this opportunity is open to paid-up members of mkivSupra.net in any car. Some people Shouldn't be an issue - I can't imagine we'll fill all 40 places with Supras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Steve, Definately up for this, possibly both cars (Supra & MR2). Can't pay until weekend as off site and can't do banking stuff where I am. Please reserve me at least the Supra place cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Steve, Definately up for this, possibly both cars (Supra & MR2). Can't pay until weekend as off site and can't do banking stuff where I am. Please reserve me at least the Supra place cheers I can't go reserving places mate as (I said I wouldn't, and) it'll just get too personal - not to mention extremely tricky to manage. I'm sure there will still be places on Saturday, but if not I'll organise ANOTHER track day, how's that for a guarantee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Some people Shouldn't be an issue - I can't imagine we'll fill all 40 places with Supras. I never read anything properly, sorry:d no probs if we get more than 40 supras i dont mind stepping down and i will gift my payment to the the 40th supra:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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