Capital Punishment

After reading this thread: http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=145301

I thought I would set up a poll (on it's way) on capital punishment and what people's view's are.

Of course the capital punishment would be in an instence where there is 100% hard core evidence that the criminal did commit murder.

How can you have 100% hardcore evidence though?

I think some crimes are unexcusable but proving guilt would be a moral minefield.

(wouldnt say so much as an eye for an eye- but capital punishment is proven deterrent)

Of course the capital punishment would be in an instence where there is 100% hard core evidence that the criminal did commit murder.

How can you have 100% hardcore evidence though?

 

I think some crimes are unexcusable but proving guilt would be a moral minefield.

Like the 100% evidence there was against The Birmingham Six, Derek Bentley and Stefan Kiszko?

Like this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7249545.stm

Nope...

I personally believe public floggings are an answer.. and yes I do actually mean that. All these little scrots that get drunk and cause trouble on a friday night...arrest them, and then saturday morning in the town square they get 10 lashes... What with the public humilation and pain, they perhaps might learn that there anti-social and recreational violence won't be allowed... (Rinse and repeat)

But then some people would say I'm being extremist and that is just town on an evening....

Thats a tough question. Alot of people think that God gives life and only God can take it... but I think in some instances where there is 'hard core' it would make sense... Im un-decided...

Would buying a lada be considered capital punishment?

Nope...

 

I personally believe public floggings are an answer.. and yes I do actually mean that. All these little scrots that get drunk and cause trouble on a friday night...arrest them, and then saturday morning in the town square they get 10 lashes... What with the public humilation and pain, they perhaps might learn that there anti-social and recreational violence won't be allowed... (Rinse and repeat)

 

But then some people would say I'm being extremist and that is just town on an evening....

Not a bad idea there actually:d

Would buying a lada be considered capital punishment?

No, but driving it would be;)

Nope...

 

I personally believe public floggings are an answer.. and yes I do actually mean that. All these little scrots that get drunk and cause trouble on a friday night...arrest them, and then saturday morning in the town square they get 10 lashes... What with the public humilation and pain, they perhaps might learn that there anti-social and recreational violence won't be allowed... (Rinse and repeat)

 

But then some people would say I'm being extremist and that is just town on an evening....

Spot on

If there was no doubt of the crime, and the rules were widely advertised before any crimes were committed, I'd be more inclined to let the people that do that sort of thing live out the rest of their lives incarcerated in terrible conditions. This would give them enough time to reflect on their actions - death would be a coward's way out. However, this would be a breach of their human rights (not that they necessarily deserve any after committing such a crime), and it would cost the tax payer to keep them.

hang em all

i think the death penalty should be brought back, but then again i think that national service should be around

I don't think it'd s good idea, as said above, can't be 100% sure but for those that are guilty, it seems too easy. Making them suffer is what i'd like to see, as Gav said, humilation for the scrotes causing trouble on a Friday night etc.

what bout chain- gangs. why cant we get them back on the roads fixing them cutting edges, cleaning roadsides,etc... and not community services as in ur in prison so today u dont get pool table and steak dinner u get to work 15hrs on the roads! on sumother service!

what bout chain- gangs. why cant we get them back on the roads fixing them cutting edges, cleaning roadsides,etc... and not community services as in ur in prison so today u dont get pool table and steak dinner u get to work 15hrs on the roads! on sumother service!

Yeah, chain-gangs, hard labour etc. gets my vote. Make them do something useful.

Yeah, chain-gangs, hard labour etc. gets my vote. Make them do something useful.

Yeah I completeley agree with that, make THEM pay for there stay in prison.

I have went for 'eye for an eye' However with the way the British justice system is there would be no such thing as a safe conviction.

Nope...

 

I personally believe public floggings are an answer.. and yes I do actually mean that. All these little scrots that get drunk and cause trouble on a friday night...arrest them, and then saturday morning in the town square they get 10 lashes... What with the public humilation and pain, they perhaps might learn that there anti-social and recreational violence won't be allowed... (Rinse and repeat)

 

But then some people would say I'm being extremist and that is just town on an evening....

Stick them in stocks, and let the public throw rotten stuff at them. Well it worked in the middle ages, so why not now?

Involve the press too. A permanent published record of their crimes.

what bout chain- gangs. why cant we get them back on the roads fixing them cutting edges, cleaning roadsides,etc... and not community services as in ur in prison so today u dont get pool table and steak dinner u get to work 15hrs on the roads! on sumother service!

Definitely that, coupled with the above. Nice one

Nope...

 

I personally believe public floggings are an answer.. and yes I do actually mean that. All these little scrots that get drunk and cause trouble on a friday night...arrest them, and then saturday morning in the town square they get 10 lashes... What with the public humilation and pain, they perhaps might learn that there anti-social and recreational violence won't be allowed... (Rinse and repeat)

 

But then some people would say I'm being extremist and that is just town on an evening....

I think this is the best answer to all unprovoked attacks, knife & gun crime and hooligans. Maybe have a bit of tomato throwing in there too

I do believe murder should be a higher sentence however a jail sentence at our expense with playstations and TV's is not the answer.

I think jail sentences for rape and murder should be very poor conditions and/or complete isolation. An hour long CD should repeat for 12 hours a day stating the laws of the UK and what is wrong/right and when they are on parole they should need to take several examinations. If they fail they will not be released for another year etc

I work with children who have "behavioural problems", they are little scrots who play the system and the liberal namby pambys whould have us say, "there there johnny". These kids have no moral compass instilled in them and a recent example was a young 15year old attacked another member of staff and was charged with assault. He was given an attendance order where he had to attend classes on a Saturday morning for 2 hours, once a fortnight. What did he do while he was there, met up with all his pikey mates and played football and trained in the gym.

I am bound by strict codes of conduct where I cannot say anything too them, but if I was given the chance they would be cleaning the streets wearing pink boiler suits watched over by someone who doesnt take any rubbish off them and make them graft.

you cant just say yep capital punishment, there so much to consider, people can say, well only if you are 100% sure, well how can anyone be 100% sure of anything...... Just watch Prison Break season one for instance

I think the death penalty is a bit permanent even as a punishment for murder. Corporal punishment would be a better option I think - a good whipping or branding might make people behave a little better.

The few states in America where they still use chain-gang labour all show much lower rates of recidivism.

However with the way the British justice system is there would be no such thing as a safe conviction.

That is the major problem isn't it. How do we prove that it's 100%. maybe if it was caught on cctv or there was a large number of witnesses who have no connection to the criminal.

Just watch Prison Break season one for instance

I knew T.V. was going to make an appearence in this thread.

far too many criminals know that they will get a soft time in our justice system.... best to have the ultimate sentence such as capital punishment to deter such scum.

hey dude thats pretty tough job u got their. i think u hit the nail on the head there with no moral compass! i agree! and the nanny state doesnt help its just there theres them as u said. Its also gotta start in the home. too many unfit parents (and if ur chavy ur mums 14 years older than you - but u get a free council house!) this is why i dont vote- cos everyone with common sense agrees in toughing up on this system and changing the laws- but our "voice" doesnt count. we just choose whos gonna make a farse of running the country next. democracy my ass!- subtle dictorship more like!!!! (hehe)

i even think that putting people in a seperate army (so that our boys dont have to work with these kids) mite even help instil some routine in their lives...

ps. love prison break!! cant wait for season 4.. (but even i pb u got t-bag evil eww - but then he is funny)