paul mac Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 well i ended up coming home from meeting Rob Wild today on the back of an AA transporter, lost the brakes whilst in traffic in Preston city centre, the passenger side rear line where it runs past the fuel tank sprang a major leak with the result the car stopped but the pedal went to the floor leaving my expensive DOT5.1 all over the exhaust pipe, i am just greatfull it happened where it did as another 5 minutes down the road i would have been on the M6 , mine is a 15 year old j-spec and if its happened to me IT WILL happen to someone else, i will get some pics of exactly where the line has failed and post them up hopefully tommorow, i am going to replace both rear brake lines if necesary all the way back to the master cylinder and go over the fronts with a microscope, can i stress to people this is not the flexibles that run to the calipers it is the fixed steel tubing that has failed :( very worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Ohhhh, thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Thanks for the heads up. Will get mine checked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Cheers mate. It'll be a done deal to check this through all over when it gets to Toyota GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 woow glad your ok that could of been a very sticky situation on the motorway might need to check mine stopping from 150 might prove difficult then next time i am on the autobahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 this is scary stuff fellas, my next big brake would have been exiting the M6 at Lancaster (post house) where i tend to leave it late, for anyone who knows this turn off its VERY tight and VERY unforgiving, to be honest i am now after the event just realising how serious this could have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Thanks for the warning will check mine while it is up in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny5 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 this is scary stuff fellas, my next big brake would have been exiting the M6 at Lancaster (post house) where i tend to leave it late, for anyone who knows this turn off its VERY tight and VERY unforgiving, to be honest i am now after the event just realising how serious this could have been Glad you made it home ok m8:)....Perish the thought off brakes failing at J34:omg:, that would be anyones worst nightmare, if you need a hand give me a shout...Will be checking mine also:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Glad you made it home ok m8:)....Perish the thought off brakes failing at J34:omg:, that would be anyones worst nightmare, if you need a hand give me a shout...Will be checking mine also:blink: cheer jon, on a plus point i cant praise the AA enough, really cool transporter with no clearance issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 This is becoming more and more common along with the fuel lines, I have seen loads now. Get them checked guys, especially around the rear axle area. PS. Dunk has a full set of genuine lines he is selling for half the retail price if anyone's interested dop him a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 My old SX had this happen, and that was only 9 years old - brake lines corrode really easily, but no-one ever really pays much attention to them. Job for next weekend, proper inspection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I thought the whole point of having 2 pistons in the master cylinder was redundancy so one set of brakes will still work? Happened to me on the fiat runaround (10 years) mild steel pipes from the italians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 I thought the whole point of having 2 pistons in the master cylinder was redundancy so one set of brakes will still work? Happened to me on the fiat runaround (10 years) mild steel pipes from the italians... see what you mean mate and i thought that the case but when the fluid finds a nice hole it makes its bid for freedom and the pedal goes to the floor , i suppose to be truly independant you would need 2 master cylinders and a link bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Any chance you can post a pic of the failed line? Must admit I've not heard of a hardline failure until now, so am interested in as much detail as you can provide. Is it possible the line has been subject to any sheering in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Any chance you can post a pic of the failed line? Must admit I've not heard of a hardline failure until now, so am interested in as much detail as you can provide. Is it possible the line has been subject to any sheering in the past? yep i will take some pics, i have never been anywhere near these brake lines aside from hosing everything with underseal some time ago and from the position i doubt there could be any means of mechanical damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I had to have mine changed at the last MOT. I tried cleaning up the rusted parts but the MOT guy wouldn't have it, he said the material was too far gone. Good for him really, it stopped me trying to skimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Perhaps a timely reminder Paul for those of us with Supes of a 'certain age'. Mine is also 15 years old, but recently I've had the UK Spec upgrade done, with all new calipers, discs, pads, fluid and of course Stainless steel braided lines. I'm sure everyone would agree that the braking system is by far the most important thing to check, above and beyond power and looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Perhaps a timely reminder Paul for those of us with Supes of a 'certain age'. Mine is also 15 years old, but recently I've had the UK Spec upgrade done, with all new calipers, discs, pads, fluid and of course Stainless steel braided lines. I'm sure everyone would agree that the braking system is by far the most important thing to check, above and beyond power and looks Thats all well and good (and the same as most of us have done), but Paul refers to a hard pipe split.. which is much more worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Thats all well and good (and the same as most of us have done), but Paul refers to a hard pipe split.. which is much more worrying. Yes you're right. Just re-read his post and realised I've misunderstood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Got the car jacked up this morning and its not good, the first pic shows the black plastic cover circled in red where the fluid is coming from the second pic red arrow shows the fuel feed and return and the yellow arrow shows passenger side holed brake pipe, my car has just had an MOT but you would not spot this as its under the cover, the cover i think has lead to this problem as it was full of muck and mud the pipes are literally sat in this crud. If you were looking at the pipes for the first time you would think it was the fuel pipes leaking as they look in worse condition than the brake pipe . Now i can sought the brake pipe with copper/nickel tube but what is the best way to tackle the fuel lines how do people uprate them are they flexible lines ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Lucky escape by the way;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 I've got a set of brand new, still in original packing, Goodridge brake lines, £50 inc p&p. Didn't realise I alreday had them on my car when I bought them:innocent: PM me if interested:) Lucky escape by the way;) mate i think you need to read this thread again, IT IS NOT the flexibles it is the fixed hard piping that has failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 going to check mine as soon as i can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 mate i think you need to read this thread again, IT IS NOT the flexibles it is the fixed hard piping that has failed Yep, Razza I think you did the same as me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 mate i think you need to read this thread again, IT IS NOT the flexibles it is the fixed hard piping that has failed my bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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