TLicense Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Time to do the valve stem seals on my 1993 J-spec with about 105,000 miles on it.... Before you start the parts you need to order are:- Valve stem seal (Inlet) 90913-02088 12 off at £3.53 each Valve stem seal (Exhaust) 90913-02123 12 off at £4.93 each Cam shaft oil seal 90311-40020 2 off at £6.59 each I recommend that if you've not had the camcovers off in a while you also order the following:- Cam cover bolts 90105-06166 12 off at £0.56 each Cam cover nut 90179-06288 4 off at £0.56 each Cam cover washer 90210-07001 16 off at £1.83 each Cam cover gasket (Inlet) 11213-46020 1 off at £7.53 each Cam cover gasket (Exhaust) 11214-46011 1 off at £7.53 each You'll also need some gasket sealant. I bought the Toyota stuff which was a little expensive to say the least, but hell, I've got it now so... Seal packing 08826-00050 1 off at £42.96 If you've not replaced the spark plugs in a while also, you may want to order the following:- Coil pack clip 90980-11246 6 off at £2.81 each Cam breather hose 12263-46010 1 off at £5.78 each Cam breather hose 12264-46010 1 off at £4.98 each. As far as specialist tools go you'll need a couple of items. I ordered mine from snap-on. Tool, Overhead Valve GA318A £34.90+VAT Pliers valve stem seal YA8230 £41.45+VAT You'll need to make a modification the valve tool (which is used to remove and install the valve keepers) In stock form it is knurled. Thus needs to be removed otherwise it can scratch the head around the bucket bore. I turned mine down on a lathe at work. The tool actually comes in two main bits:- Hopefully you can see where I machined off the knurling:- You'll also need a length of rope. I got 2m worth of 6mm dia rope from homebase for £2. Once you've got that little lot, you can be sure that the things that are to be quite honest more than likely to break or leak or just need replacing is covered. So I guess the first thing is to get on with the job..... edited to add tools required p3JZ5 Edited January 15, 2010 by TLicense p3JZ5 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Head off or rope trick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 How long is that going to take you Tony? Good luck sorting it out, let us know how it went Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 So first of all, you need to remove the spark plug cover. Now if you're struggling at this stage, I suggest you get someone else to do it for you.... There's 10 bolts which you'll need a 5mm allen key to undo. Once that's done you'll need to remove the two cam breather pipes:- 12263-46010 and 12264-46010 Mine were recently replaced so were nice and supple, if you've not replaced yours recently they'll be hard and will more than likely split. Next you need to remove the coil packs. To do this you need to unclip the 6 plugs that connect to the coil packs. They look like this:- 90980-11246 and Again these will tend to go hard and brittle with age, and will tend to dissintegrate on contact so best to order a replacement set first. You'll also need to disconnect the plugs that connect to the intake air control VSV:- and also the exhaust bypass valve vsv:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Mine were recently replaced so were nice and supple, if you've not replaced yours recently they'll be hard and will more than likely split. Yep, or totally solid hard and need cutting off with a stanley knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 So once you've removed those you can pull the two engine wires to the front of the engine like this:- Next the coil packs. There's 2 bolts for each coil pack. 3 coil packs. As I removed each one I marked them so I could match them back to the cylinder they came from:- Next to unbolt the cam covers there are 12 bolts and 4 nuts. Th real pain here is getting to the last two bolts on the outside of each cam-cover, and the two nuts on the inside near no.6 cylinder. The problem is that the air tube that feeds air to the idle air control valve gets in the way. It has to be removed! It's got 5 pipes attaced to it and is held against the inlet cam cover by a spring clip. Once I'd undone the 5 clamps, it was fairly easy to shuffle it out. Be careful as the pipe above it runs to the heater matrix, so don't yank it around too much as you don't want to split the matrix as it's a dashboard out job to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Once you've removed the idle air crontrol valve pipe, you'll be able to get to the nuts and bolts:- Now if the nuts come off, but the washers underneath won't move, try gently prying them off with a flat bladed screw driver. If that doesn't work, the next step of aggresion involves a hammer and the same screw driver. Using the screw driver (Or even a flat punch if you have one!) gently tap the washers around. They'll eventually start to turn, and then you can unscrew them. (The plastic bit melts around the thread of the stud, and forms it's own little thread - hence why it's difficult to just pull them off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Now before I removed the cam covers I tidied around a little. I undid the accelerator and cruise control cables, and tied them out of the way:- An I also removed the throttle cable support bracket otherwise you can guarantee it will just get in the way! There's also two last pipes to remove, one on each cam cover:- and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hurry up Tony, I'm hovering over the "move thread to FAQs" button as we speak Btw you can tuck the throttle cable under a wiper blade, gets it well out the way -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 OK so next of all you need to remove the cam covers, They take a little bit of maneouvring to get them out, but be persistance and they'll eventually come. If they're particularly stubborn, first try giving them a good whack with a plastic faced mallet. If you still have no joy, gently lever then with a flat bladed screw-driver. To avoid scratching the head, wrap the end of the screw-driver with tape. Exhaust side off:- And both of them:- There may be some remnants of the seal packing gasket type gunk on the camcovers and the head near the front of the engine. You should be able to just pick it off it's the black blob to the lower right of this pick:- With the cam covers off, now's a pretty good time to measure the shim clearances. The gap between the inlet cam and the valve shims should be between 0.15-0.25mm (0.006-0.010 in) and on the exhaust side they should be between 0.25-0.35mm (0.010-0.014 in) If they're outside of these tolerances then make a note of which shim on which cylinder and also what value you measured with the feeler gauge. Mine were between 0.15 and 0.2 mm on the inlet and 0.25 and 0.3 mm on the exhaust - perfect. Next remove the timing belt cover. There's 3 allen bolts. You'll need the 5mm allen key again. There's one in the middle:- And one either side:- Couldn't get a good shot of the RH side (drivers side) one but it's in there somewhere:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 So you're getting close to removing the cam belt. However you also want to be able to put the timing belt back on, and not have to mess around with having to set the timing. Luckily to help us with doing this Toyota have put timing marks on the cam gears, the no. 1 and 4 timing belt covers and the crankshaft pulley. I didn't get any pics of this bit (actually I'll own up and admit I forgot to line up the marks - doh!) but what you want to do is line up the timing mark on the crankshaft pulley to the 0 timing mark on the no.1 timing belt cover (It's down the bottom - I'll try and get a pic tomorrow and insert it here!) Hopefully the timing marks on the cam-gears and on the no.4 timing belt cover line up. If they don't give the crank a full rotation (360 degrees) it should now line up. As I'm not removing the cam belt, to help me get it back onto the cam gears in the place I took it off, I marked the cam gears and the belt like this:- Now to actually remove the cam belt, you need to unbolt the cam belt tensioner. This is found between the alternator and the engine just behind the outer part of the crankshaft pulley. I tried to get a pic, but it's also just above the anti roll bar, which kinda get's in the way but it's the black cylindrcal bit slightly to the right of the middle of the pic. There's two bolts which you'll need a 10mm socket. I found it was easiest to momentarily unbolt the hose lines that run just under the tensioner (The bolts to the left of the middle of the pic, and another bolt on the lh side of the engine). I then used about 9-12 inches of extension bars to get to the bolts. Undo them evenly. Here's a pic of tensioner once removed :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Excellent post - Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 Now the cambelt is no longer under tension it should be fairly easy to remove the belt by sliding it off the camgears. I then tucked the cam belt down out of the way without twisting it. OK so now it's time to remove the cam gears. You'll need a 17mm socket for the bolt on the front of the camgears, and I used an adjustable spanner to hold the camshaft in place. Toyota very kindly gave us a perfect hex halfway down the camshaft to grip the camshafts:- To stop the adjustable spanner dinking the head when you try to undo the bold, wedge a piece of paper towel between the spanner and the head. The camgears are done up to 79Nm (59 ft-lbf) so are pretty tight. You may need to get some extra leverage like a breaker bar or something. Here's the exhaust side off :- I marked the backs of both camgears with which side they cam from just so I can get them back on in the same order as they came off. I don't think it would really matter if you swapped them over though. Here's the inlet camgear:- Both camgears removed:- Next you need to remove the no.4 cambelt cover. There's 4 bolts. One either side of the camshafts and 1 each side a little lower down. You'll need a 10mm socket for these. Once these have been removed you can start to remove the cover. It's a right git because of it's shape, and also it hits the lower timing belt cover. I gently prised the lower cover and with pushed the cover to the LHS of the car. Eventually after some wriggling around it came free:- Where it fouls the lower cover Reasons why it's difficult to remove:- The front of your engine should now look something like this:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 So now you're pretty much ready to start removing the cam gears. The first thing to do is to remove the no.1 bearing caps. There's 4 bolts that you'll need a 10mm socket for. Undo them uniformly, and remove the bearing caps. If the caps are difficult to remove you can prise them with a flat bladed screwdriver. Again wrap the tip in tape so as not to scratch the head. Keep the individual caps and their bolts together so you're not mixing up bolts and caps. Now remove the oil seal 90311-40020 Here's a shot of one of the no.1 bearing caps once removed:- And of the cams:- So now you need to undo the remaining caps. These need to be done in order. I've got a paper-copy of the order to remove them in which I'll try to scan in. In the mean time, if you look closely at the top of the remaining caps, you'll see they have numbers. 2-7. You need to undo them in the following order in a number of passes. 2-6-4-5-7-3 Loosen the inner of the two bolts before loosening the outers. I did mine over 3 passes. As I was undoing them there was a little "clunk" as the springs under comrpression released. No caps:- Again keep the individual caps and their bolts together (sandwich bags are ideal) Don't worry too much about labelling them as they're stamped with their number on top, along with and arrow that points towards the front of the engine. You should now be able to lift out the cams:- I couldn't find any particular marking on each cam, so I labelled them as I removed them:- But don't worry too much as only the exhaust cam has this larger diameter part to it:- And here's what it will look like with no cams:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Excellent Tony, Think you should get free lifetime membership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherjohn Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Tony, When you put those cams back and the end seal caps put some good sealant round them as if not all your oil is gonna piss out past them even with new seals, which i strongly recommend. Been there, trying to help you save a crying sesion !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 This is an excellent post, one of the best 'How to' posts I've seen on this or any other Supra website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Any website I rekon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Yes well.... I dunno which 'how to' websites you frequent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 GREAT post TL Mods - Please can you cut the chit chat out of this thread to keep it clean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Awesome stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 GREAT post TL Mods - Please can you cut the chit chat out of this thread to keep it clean ? Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I just moved this to the FAQs and then realised Tony hadn't finished So I put it back. Hopefully this hasn't wrecked anything -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 So you'll now be pretty close to removing the buckets and shims. I tried to lift them out by hand, but they were covered in oil, so I couldn't get a good grip. So I resorted to using some large adjustable pliers and taped over the jaws so as not to scratch the buckets. It was then easy to pull the buckets out with the shims still sat on top of them. Here's a couple of pics of them seperated:- To make sure I didn't get things mixed up, I got an egg box, and used that to keep each valves bucket and shim organised:- I'm going to do 1 cylinder at a time to help prevent any possible mix up. Here you can see the valve retainer (The round disc) and the valve locks (the bits in the centre of the retainer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 Now the problem is if you remove the valve locks and the retainer now, the valve will drop into the combustion chamber, and you'll need to take the head off to get it back. I'm choosing, if you've not guessed already, to use as someone eloquently put it "the rope trick". To do this what you need to do is set the cylinder you're working on to somewhere round about bottom dead centre. It doesn't have to be too precise. To do this it's easiest if you remove the spark plugs, if you haven't done it already when setting up the timing marks earlier on. (You'll need a 16mm spark plug socket to remove the spark plugs) To find approximately bottom dead centre (BDC) I gently put a long (maybe about 9 inches or more) screw driver down the spark plug hole, and then turned the crankshaft untill the screwdriver stopped moving down and started to move back upwards. Here's a pic of it st approximately BDC:- Remove the screwdriver once you're at BDC. Now tie a knot into the end of the rope you've bought, and then start to feed it all into the combustion chamber through the spark plug hole. Now turn the crank shaft gently untill it you feel resistance. This is the rope being compressed between the top of the piston and the bottom of the head and the valves. This will then stop the valves from dropping into the combustion chamber when you remove the locks and retainers. Genius. So now you'll be ready to remove the locks and retainers. You'll be using the valve tool to do this. However I found that the diameter was slightly too large, so I placed a washer onto the end of it (it's got a strong magnet inside it by the way - this is what "grabs" the valve locks) Also now's a very good point to take some paper towel and place it anywhere where any small parts could fall down. In particular the oilways between the valves. You then simply place it against the retainer, and give it a medium tap with a hammer:- The valve spring compreses, and the retainer moves down the valve with it. However the valves not moving, which means there's no load on the valve locks, and the magnet in the tool whips them out the way. When the spring un-compreses, there's no locks to hold the valve retainer in place any more, so the retainer becomes free as-well. (And incidentally get's grabbed by the magent also) Here's some pics of the locks and retainer:- Here's a pic of the valve tool with the locks and the washer stuck to the magenet:- valve locks - yes they are that small! You can then just lift the valve spring out. I marked it so as I knew which way up it cam out:- So now it was possible to remove the actual valve seals using the valve stem seal pliers. The inlet side was quite difficult to pull out, but after a good pull it finally pried free. Unfortunately I just had enough time to remove 1 to take a pic for you, sorry about the quality, I'll take some better ones tomorrow when I do the others and get a couple of shots of what they look like before they're removed. edited to say turn crankshaft - not camshaft - the camshaft is no longer in the car so turning it will do no good whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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