Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I'm getting a "Check Engine" warning light on my VVTi but the paperclip method for reading stored codes does not work on the VVTi Supras. I saw this on eBay : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD-2-EOBD-OBD2-engine-Scanner-Code-Reader-no-PC-new_W0QQitemZ8064119692 What do you think guys? Will it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Magic 8 ball says : "Answer cloudy, try later" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 I don't think it'll work. It says Port: 16-pin OBDII Standard Socket but looking at the diag socket on the car it's got more than 16 pin sockets and they're in three rows. Bugger. Suppose I'll have to get the Vaseline out and take the car to Toyota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Well, I've wondered this myself, and I've looked into OBDII stuff... from my recollection, it is only a few wires... a K-Line and an L-Line, which 'in theory' should provide the right codes for an ODBII system provided the wiring matches... I'm going to have a go using something like the VAGcom OBDII and then linking it into my car pc...but that is a while off. http://www.planetfall.com/~jeff/obdii/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 http://www.obdii.com/connector.html http://www.troublecodes.net/Toyota/ Further information, the Toyota Supra uses the VPW protocol which is why most of the OBDii units won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thanks for that Gav Any idea where I would get a OBDII variable pulse width scanner from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The Blitz R-VIT works Jake, or at least it appears to give fault codes for the vvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Have you fixed the cam timing yet Jake? I wouldn't be surprised if it threw an error code being fully advanced all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gzaerojon Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 whats the paper clip method jake? not to divert your original thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The Blitz R-VIT works Jake, or at least it appears to give fault codes for the vvtiI've just read the specs on that, looks very useful. How useful would it be in real life? Is it worth the cost is all Jake wants is the error code, or is it going to be of a lot more use than just that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I always fancied the R-VIT, I must be honest, and spoke to Terry a few times about it, since he recommended it. However, I'm still keen on finding a bit of hardware that works for the PC, then with the list of above error codes and the other info you can get off OBDII integrate it into the carp. I guess I'll have to hurry up with it and get it working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osso Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I remember Gaz from Envy Performance has a device for reading VVTi error codes! He posted something about it, a few months ago on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The R-VIT works really well, PnP too. Great piece of kit, sold mine when I went F-Con and have always regretted it because it can give some really good info for tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I knew these VVTi diagrams would come in handy for something.... http://www.slipstreem.net/images/final3.15.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Have you fixed the cam timing yet Jake? I wouldn't be surprised if it threw an error code being fully advanced all the timeYes Geoff. I was doing it wrong. The way Terry said is the correct method. I reset the ECU a couple of times but the error light comes back on about 3 secs after starting the engine. I just wish I knew what error it's trying to warn me about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Sadly, I won't have my solution ready for a while, but I'll see if I can find something... The other option is, find a nice garage that will come out with their OBDII scanner, but make sure they have a VPW connection... Mind you, if you are handy with a circuit board, you could build one in a few days... Tempted to get the curcuit board in the previous post screened and make one.. http://www.opendiag.org/ Almost forgot about this lot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Yes Geoff. I was doing it wrong. The way Terry said is the correct method. I reset the ECU a couple of times but the error light comes back on about 3 secs after starting the engine. I just wish I knew what error it's trying to warn me about. Not wanting to scare you bud, but you do have oil pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Knew I had seen it somewhere.... http://www.scantool.net/products/product_info.php?cPath=8_6&products_id=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Not wanting to scare you bud, but you do have oil pressure.Well, the oil pressure warning light is working, I mean that it comes on with all the others when you first turn the ignition on - before you start the engine. That means I have oil pressure doesn't it? How else would I tell? When I start the engine all the lights go out by then after a few seconds the red triangle and the yellow engine light come on. (Not oil pressure or oil level lights though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I honestly dont know mate, it could be so many things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Jake, wonder if this is worth ago with a modified cable... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/U480-CAN-BUS-OBD-2-ENGINE-SCANNER-CODE-READER_W0QQitemZ4640519901QQcategoryZ43989QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Jake, wonder if this is worth ago with a modified cable... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/U480-CAN-BUS-OBD-2-ENGINE-SCANNER-CODE-READER_W0QQitemZ4640519901QQcategoryZ43989QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Dunno mate. I'd be willing to try it if I could get a modified cable from somewhere. Or did you mean hack up that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 You can source the female OBDII cable somewhere on the net, then use that, rather than butcher the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Is it me, or does this look damn close.... http://www.obd2cables.com/products/product_info.php?products_id=60&osCsid=8dc8d116e9c0f439f811f007dc37e9e6 http://www.obd2cables.com/products/index.php?cPath=23_25&osCsid=dcf93b85ce807c0c435f6676c48696ac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Is it me, or does this look damn close.... http://www.obd2cables.com/products/product_info.php?products_id=60&osCsid=8dc8d116e9c0f439f811f007dc37e9e6 http://www.obd2cables.com/products/index.php?cPath=23_25&osCsid=dcf93b85ce807c0c435f6676c48696ac That looks exactly the same as the one under the steering column! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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