couv3z Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Hello all you Tech wizards out there... on a n/a as we know the air intake runs over the engine before the air get to the mainfold, to get into the engine my question is can i change this (the way it set up now the air gets heatted up as it travel over the engine and makes the air less dence) and and fit something like http://members.cox.net/virtualworksracing/intake/images/m1lg.jpg http://members.cox.net/virtualworksracing/intake/images/m1lg.jpg (i know i would have to relocate the battery but thats not a major job. Guess the really point to my question is there a point to this.... has anyone done it?? if not and i am the first to think this way, would i need to change anything else to fit the above. *Before anyone says why shut up blar blar... i'm just thinking outside the box and looking at ideas for the car* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 im not a tech wizard but what you're sayin makes sense. ive been holding out for this one for a while, should be done soon: http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3097&highlight=intake this one doesnt need the battery to be relocated, just the power steering reservoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jk_supra Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 could be wrong but dont think this is made for the NA, thinks its for the turbo........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jk_supra Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 i cant look at that link mate, any pics you can post up???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Independent throttle bodies, to give you better throttle response would be the ideal solution. Here are a couple of examples. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8919/6suro6jpgok6.jpg http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9851/suro41oz4.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 here you go think its going to be available polished as well (blue looks a bit dodge lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 and: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 The stock item is tuned to give you best power and torque. The others arn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 The stock item is tuned to give you best power and torque. The others arn't. thats true for a stock setup, but if your na-t i think these are bigger and flow better?? (though maybe im spending too much time over on the na-t forum ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 Independent throttle bodies, to give you better throttle response would be the ideal solution. Here are a couple of examples. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8919/6suro6jpgok6.jpg Nic as your the import King can you get hold of any of theses?? id be up for trying his to see if there is a Point(and beside i may N/A-T one day anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Nic as your the import King can you get hold of any of theses?? id be up for trying his to see if there is a Point(and beside i may N/A-T one day anyway) These 2 examples were produced by a Japanese company called YSR, I enquired about them last year to see if they were available to buy. I was told that these were custom made and not available off the shelf unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 These 2 examples were produced by a Japanese company called YSR, I enquired about them last year to see if they were available to buy. I was told that these were custom made and not available off the shelf unfortunately. cheers anyway i'll try the people that already make them and see if they can customised for a N/a but i would have thought(follow me on this)as the TT and N/a share the same bolk the inlet holes would be the same size so the ones made for the TT would be the same as the N/a ............ can anyone confirm this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Unfortunately all the ones available are made to order i.e DaveH's etc, the problem is the mounting holes are different on the heads between na and tt and there is no real market for them. Here is mine that I started but not got round to finishing http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=85709&highlight=big+intake It is not really needed not even for a NA-T nthe Boostlogic guys got really good figures out of the standard manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukApache Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 but i would have thought(follow me on this)as the TT and N/a share the same bolk the inlet holes would be the same size so the ones made for the TT would be the same as the N/a ............ can anyone confirm this??? no they're not the same. I think the n/a's lower runners are different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 hte oppertunately has come up to get hold of some lower runners... to possiblely manufacture one. but while sitting here on my fat arse, i've been thinking will there be enough pressure to force enough air to the 5th and 6th piston?? clearly if i had a big turbo it would create the pressure required, but could the N/a sux up enough pressure? have i been thinking out side the box for to long?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Wasnt there one similar made by Injen? Im sure i saw it on a members car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Wasnt there one similar made by Injen? Im sure i saw it on a members car? I think you are thinking of Prof. Monkey. His intake was made by Dave H and before he put that on he had an Injen induction kit on his standard manifold which is maybe why you remember the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra_supra Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Independent throttle bodies, to give you better throttle response would be the ideal solution. Here are a couple of examples. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8919/6suro6jpgok6.jpg http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9851/suro41oz4.jpg really likin those set-ups, shame we can't get hold of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 clearly if i had a big turbo it would create the pressure required, but could the N/a sux up enough pressure? have i been thinking out side the box for to long?? Dude, engines work by creating a vacuum, not sucking up pressure Yes the NA will suck in air, whether you get a performance boost over the stock setup or just lose power in some/akll of the rev range is the question. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Once upon a time we used to get all anal about air distribution in a "log" style plenum on a NA engine. Not so much now for some unknown reason. If the plenum is big enough it should not be a "real world" problem. However, sacrificing the NA's long secondary runners and twin-mode variable intake system in favour of short, stubby primaries will probably kill the midrange torque. In therory it should be slightly better for top end power, though. It's all a trade-off with "fixed" plenums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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