absz Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 as the title says. here is the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72205&item=7987502992&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW i'm not to clued up on turbo ratios etc. just need some info on this type of setup. the reason is because i have the engine in bits a the moment. with my turbos removed. i have a choice either to stick to the original turbos and have all the pipes etc just chromed. or go for a budget single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 There is a thread on Supra Forums where a guy has bought the same kit to test it for everyone...best wait till he has some conclusions me thinks. FWIW, the turbo in this kit is completely wrong IMO won't give good power and will be laggy as hell....but it's your choice. The kit will work but it will never be "good". See the SupraForums thread here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 What about using the kit but using a different turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Just noted in that thread, he's replaced the exhaust housing as the one in the kit was unusable in the form it arrived in....so get the get without the turbo is a definate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 What about using the kit but using a different turbo? Like I say it will "work"...how well needs to be determined...hence I'm watching that thread EDIT - But I'd still be happier with a BL/SPE/PHR kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 im using the manifold and wastegate with an ITS72DBB turbo. not really given it any abuse yet as not got around to fuelling etc. http://hometown.aol.co.uk/LEE2SARE/turbo+install+007.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Fook - does that hit boost this side of the next millennium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Fook - does that hit boost this side of the next millennium? not as bad as it looks. 0.7 a/r. im sure it'll be much better when the hi-stall goes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absz Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 i'll keep an eye on the supra forum thread. to see how he gets on, cheers alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Thats gona go like a misile when it spools...remind not to go in front of you when that thing goes ..I dont want to end up in 1988 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Abbs, As you know I have been upgrading the car since I got it off you last year and one of the mods was to go single. After looking at was was around and checking out the prices I went for the XSpower kit off Ebay. OK a lot of people say they are S--t but for less than £700 for the whole kit including shipping I thought I may as well give it a try as at least if the turbo is crap I still get the other bits, Manifold,Wastegate,Blow off valve, Intercooler, Downpipe,all bolts,nuts,lines,gaskets,plus a lot of other stuff you do not see in the advert. OK the kit has now been on for 3 months and along with all the other changes I had her on the rolling road last week she produced 573 rwhp @ 4850rpm with 743NM, the boost via the AVC-R was set to 1.5bar at 30% duty on the graph it held constant at 1.4.9bar from 2900rpm, the opperator could not continue the run to full because even with 3 very havey lads sitting in the rear hatch she just kept spinning off the rollers as he tried to go above 4850rpm so next stop Thor. All in all I am no expert can can only go by my own personal experince with this kit I fitted it myself and had no problems with any of the parts although the Wastegate is a bit of a tight fit. Last week I bought the same kit again to fit to my partners Supra and again the kit came in at £658 including shipping and was at my door 3 days later by Fed Ex, on oppening the well packed box I was delighted to find that they had included a number of extra items with a note saying thank you for buying a second kit from us. All in All I have been very happy with mine and the second kit but at the end of the day it is your choice and to be well informed is great but then again sometimes you end up not being able to see the wood from the trees. Good luck mate and I hope to see your new beast soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Just a quick one that was without the NOs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Greg, what's the lag like mate? I could be tempted to buy another one of these kits now but everyone slags em off (I couldn't see a problem bar the HUGE turbo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Steve, I can only say that to date I have not had the lag I thought I would get, it is even less than the stock twin setup that was on my car before I went to this single kit. Once again please let me state that this is only what I have found with this kit and the set-up on my car I am not saying that this will be the same for anyone elses car or set-up. You have to make your own choices. Please let me add that we are fitting the 2nd kit we bought last week to Samsupra37s car next week and I will post how it went and what the effects were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Well that's positive news then...must say the power levels sound healthy though I'd like to see what it produces on another dyno as you say it was slipping. Did you have to do much fabrication to get it to fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 That's not the T4 turbo tho is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Alex Only bits that had to be made up were the hard pipes from the turbo to the FMIC and upto the intake, drill and tapp the turbo outlet for the pressure nipple,and buy a bung for the second oil feed from the block Other than that every thing that was needed was in the kit, although I did find that the braided steel hoses for the oil feed were quite cheap and had two heavy duty oil feed ones made by Think Automotive at a cost of £19.75 each. At the end of the install I had a lot of bits left over spare gaskets, nipples,clamps and hose. I am happy with what I got and how it fits and works. Again only my personal opinion and findings. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Steve, T4 TURBO - .60 a/r cold 1.05 HOT T4 Flange Hope that answers your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 fnar fnar I can see an expensive year on the horizons :D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Blimey Greg, that's a great power figure for such a cheap kit. It sounds too good to be true. Especially if you're getting full boost at low as just 2900rpm. What injectors and injector control does the car have? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregsupra4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Jake, I am running 700cc injectors using an Apexi Fmange at this point in time ( until I get the Emanage) also I have a greddy fuel rail and twin fuel pumps going through a regulator and running at 45psi at idle and 44psi at 4500rpm, I am running NGK copper plugs with o.4 gap, also on the ignigtion side I am using a modified MSD unit,other mods are inlet manifold port matched and polished, HKS ajustable cams, Fluid front damper. Thats the lot for now but I am going to do a bit more to her soon but mostly cosmetic Bling. Ya Ya I know sad git. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Holy crap you've got a 90deg bend in the intake (post compressor) that can't be too nice for the air flow. I'm surprised you have to gap so small...what are the plug codes? This FManage - any chance of a pic as I still have no idea what it is? Are you going for the eManage Ultimate? How come you've cranked the static fuel pressure upto 45psi?? Stock is about 34psi and with 700cc injectors you've got more than enough scope to fuel correctly boost on normal rail pressures. Cheers Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think the Apexi Fmanage is the one with the hand held controller in it, i have a pic of a supra i am looking at that has it (i think!). To the left of the picture. http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD_web/servlet/media?id=185690955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Sean, That's what my guess was last time it was mentioned...but I was told it was something else. That's the Power FC (With handheld commander). As far as I know it doesn't have an alternative name...ie Fmanage. This is why I really need a picture of it to decide 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean1933 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Ok. So Alex can you actually tell me what the Power FC can do? I am confused in comparison to AEM or Emanage? and how good is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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