TazUK Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 As I understand it, the Clifford 600 is no longer sold. Is the Clifford C650 its replacement and how does it compare to the Intelliguard 950? Are there any other manufacturers that are good? Also, if I were to get the Intellistart and/or Turbo Timer, does that still mean I can get a certificate stating a Thatcham Cat 1 alarm is fitted to my car? Any help on this would be useful as I need to get a new alarm and I'm really confused. Also, where is the best place to get it fitted (and RLTC preferably)? I'm in Winchester, so I know there's a Sexton's down the road, but I've heard good things about Matt H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Thanks for the kind comment The Concept 650 is technically the replacement for the Concept 300, and the Intelliguard 950 is the successor to the Concept 600. However, neither units now have window closures built in as standard, (the C600 used to), but both units now have dual zone proximity sensor, and Blackjax, (which was the main reason to upgrade from the C300 to the C600). Some companies are really anal about giving out certificates when the alarm has any additions. IMHO they're only being awkward as you have still had a Thatcham tested product fitted, and the fact that there is something else fitted that could compromise the 'tested specificatio' is a massive grey area. With regard to what's the best alarm, that's really subjective and down to personal preference and experience. We only really do Clifford and Toad, but we have Sigma, Laserline, Selca, Micro-scan, at our disposal. In the past we've also dealt with Scorpion, Cobra and a few others. IMHO, and it is my opinion, I prefer Toad for reliability and back-up, but Clifford wins for me due to the features and gadgets they offer. With a Toad system, they're really easy to install/set-up with no strange quirks. Cliffords need a bit more time spent on the installation and this is what sometimes causes the end user to have problems. A bad installation can make them do all sorts of odd things which makes for a bad experience to anyone that's had an iffy one in the past. Whilst I'm sure any Sextons branch could/should offer you good installation at competetive prices, they won't have come across RLTC before. Although I'm more than happy to share any information/technical support with another Sextons branch, so the choice is yours Hope that helps a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAngry Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Little Hijack Matt are you able to get the bonnet sensor seperately for the TOAD AI606? Mine is a bit moody at the moment often it won't disarm so I have to lift the bonnet and push the plunger a few times. WHen it plays up the indicators flash a few times instead of the normal twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 That's a strange one! Yes, I have got the bonnet switches available, and yes, if it plays up, you should get extra indicator flashes and a couple of extra beeps to let you know, but it shouldn't have anything to do with disarming the alarm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAngry Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hmm weird maybe I could pop down when you are free to have one of your guys take a look. It doesnt happen all the time though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepster Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Go clifford with intelli start. Keeps ya car safe and the start feature rules..wether to impress passers by or get the air con pumping ready for your arrival. my 2p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hmm weird maybe I could pop down when you are free to have one of your guys take a look. It doesnt happen all the time though You're more than welcome, although trying to rectify intermittant faults when they're not showing the fault, isn't an easy task! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Clifford is the way to go, and I would strongly suggest you take the car down to Matts to have it fitted. Its less than a 2 hour drive from Winchester and well worth the piece of mind that the job is done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Toad for me.....simply & effective. never had a problem....so far anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 So whats the difference between the concept 650 and the intelliguard 950? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klump Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Few hundred !!! Matt be up tomorrow to see you about a few alarm add on's Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmic Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 whichever Clifford it is, make sure you get one with Blakjax-anti hijacking....far too many cars being stolen as of late, at least if they pinch your keys, your car should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntD Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 So whats the difference between the concept 650 and the intelliguard 950? According to the guy who fitted my alarm today the only difference is that with the IG 950 you get Dual Prox sensor,Tilt/motion Sensor and I think Glass Break sensor as standard.Everything else is exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 According to the guy who fitted my alarm today the only difference is that with the IG 950 you get Dual Prox sensor,Tilt/motion Sensor and I think Glass Break sensor as standard.Everything else is exactly the same. Don't ya just hate alarm fitters that don't know much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntD Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Don't ya just hate alarm fitters that don't know much... Oh yeah and apparently the Intelliguard 950 will now become obsolete and the Concept 650 is superceding it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 No idea which one is best, but i will say get Matt to fit it. I wouldnt have my electrics done by anyone else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntD Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Well I've had no problems with the alarm...so far.Had it fitted today already.Dropped the car off at 9:15 this morning at a guy in Bury, Manchester that was recommended from this forum.First option was Matt Harwood,but its a long way from Liverpool to Kent.I only left at 6:30 PM tonight.I ordered the Intelliguard 950 with Intellistart.After I drop the car off I took a taxi to the Trafford Centre.Not long after the guy calls me and says he only just opened the box and there was no Intellistart in the package he ordered.I was fuming,but stayed calm as I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt.Decided to just have the alarm[Concept 650] fitted then.The airbag light is now on... ,but I know I should be able to fix it easily tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb9780 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 The airbag light is now on... ,but I know I should be able to fix it easily tomorrow. I am sure that if you take the top warning light panel off, without disconnecting the battery, this light comes on permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest msisupra Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 the clifford concept 650 replaces the clifford concept 300 not the 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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