Pixelfill Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 What is the real power of your vote? http://www.voterpower.org.uk/ Thanks for that - just when I thought I had an opportunity to make a difference!!. In Preston, one person does not really have one vote, they have the equivalent of 0.062 votes The telegraph suggested UKIP initially but when I added BNP to the mix they came out on top Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm sure we had some sort of Scottish specific party last time I looked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm definately not voting conservative. I live in an ultra safe labour seat so I don't know if I can be bothered to vote at all. I know if everyone did that blah blah blah, but they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 i read the pirate party manifesto the other day. some good sugestions! (and its not bollocks like enforced eye patch wairing) Things like getting rid of DRM and big updates to copyright law that make it illegal to put a cd onto your ipod (which i didnt know was illegal). Also plenty of other things like the use of CCTV and privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm definately not voting conservative. I live in an ultra safe labour seat so I don't know if I can be bothered to vote at all. I know if everyone did that blah blah blah, but they don't. I checked that voterpower site and my area has been labour since 1935 and it's only classed as 'very safe', how long does it have to be controlled for it to be 'ultra safe'!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I checked that voterpower site and my area has been labour since 1935 and it's only classed as 'very safe', how long does it have to be controlled for it to be 'ultra safe'!? I think it's to do with overall majority as well. Preston for instance was 48.65% labour in 2005, with 21% Conservative and 20% liberal democrats. It would take a huge swing to displace labour here so therefore Ultra Safe Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 My vote counts for eff all on that, but I'm reasonably happy as it's Ultra Safe conservative here:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 i read the pirate party manifesto the other day. some good sugestions! (and its not bollocks like enforced eye patch wairing) Things like getting rid of DRM and big updates to copyright law that make it illegal to put a cd onto your ipod (which i didnt know was illegal). Also plenty of other things like the use of CCTV and privacy. What are their plans for health and the environment or would that diffuse their purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 another 5 years of brown and his crew and we will all be living in a box A cardboard box? I'll take the porcupine please. Same. I won't be voting for any of the main 3 parties, they're all as useless as each other. I'll be voting for whatever comedy party is standing in our area, I like the idea of a hung parliament/possible coalition government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'm with you comrade All the tories on here are too young to remember how it was Thatcherism that started the rot in the '80s, the result of which is being blamed on Labour now! Is Thatcher running this time for Conservative then? OMG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downimpact Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'm with you comrade All the tories on here are too young to remember how it was Thatcherism that started the rot in the '80s, the result of which is being blamed on Labour now! Yes completely short memories Best things were getting rid of free opticians, result of policy adults just don't go to get their eye sight checked because of cost. Same for dentists. If the tories have their way they would do the same to the NHS given a chance. Also huge under investment in roads have left them in the state they are in today. There's no point giving tax breaks so you are then underfunding the public services we all want. The reason Labour have despite their long tenure haven't sorted the roads is because it would cost billions and to pay for it you would need to raise taxes which is unpopular. They were also focusing money on underinvested nhs, schools and the like when they came to power (the pot is only so big). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (the pot is only so big). And how much of this pot is invested and spent on other countries and europe to keep them all happy, I say feck the lot of them and spend the money here, let them sort themselves out. I am more than happy to help others once our own place is back up to scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downimpact Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 And how much of this pot is invested and spent on other countries and europe to keep them all happy, I say feck the lot of them and spend the money here, let them sort themselves out. I am more than happy to help others once our own place is back up to scratch. I agree completely Wez, that infuriates me too. This is probably why the voters choice suggested i should vote BNP or UKIP, I wondered if it might be loaded in their favour. To clarify I wont be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I know a few people who really like the UKIP but believe the only real chance of removing labour is with the conservatives so giving them the vote instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Reducing the population will solve all the problems we have, so technically BNP will save the country, but it seems similar to cutting off your arm to lose weight - you'd get a great score in weight watchers that night but you've screwed up the rest of your life in the process! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yes completely short memories Best things were getting rid of free opticians, result of policy adults just don't go to get their eye sight checked because of cost. Same for dentists. If the tories have their way they would do the same to the NHS given a chance. Also huge under investment in roads have left them in the state they are in today. There's no point giving tax breaks so you are then underfunding the public services we all want. The reason Labour have despite their long tenure haven't sorted the roads is because it would cost billions and to pay for it you would need to raise taxes which is unpopular. They were also focusing money on underinvested nhs, schools and the like when they came to power (the pot is only so big). How is thatcher responsible for the state of the country today (12 years under labour)..... We pay far too much in tax as it is, you seem to think that its not enough.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 We pay far too much in tax as it is, you seem to think that its not enough.... We pay a lot less tax than some other countries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Is anyone here like my wife, and wetting themselves in anticipation of this farcical "debate" on the box tonight? How American can we get, what a nonsense it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 There's a televised debate? Couldn't give a monkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'm gonna try and watch it, might learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 We pay a lot less tax than some other countries... we pay a lot more than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 There's a televised debate? Couldn't give a monkeys. I'd like to see monkeys debating though. As long as it isn't a mass debate. That wouldn't be such fun to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I heard some excerpts from the Green Party's manifesto on the radio yesterday. Maybe its not an accurate sample, but I heard: 1) Tax the rich heavily. 2) Don't tax the poor. 3) Tax drivers heavily to "force them off the roads". 4) Stop all nuclear power generation. 5) Pull our troops out of foreign wars. 6) Legailse marijuana. I thought they were becoming a more serious political force, but this crap sounds like it was written by a grumpy first year university student. Presumably after I changed channels they started playing "The Age Of Aquarius" and went over to Neil from the Young Ones for an in depth analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 It seems like a lot of the party policies are turning childlike, either in an attempt to win votes or simply because the population is seen as being 'a bit dim'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 ....or simply because the population is seen as being 'a bit dim'. Having listened to some of the interviews on the news last night I think it's a fair assumption. "I finks dat de undred an fiffy parnds for bein marrieds is a gud fing coz I dunt get nuffink for livin wiv mi man awl dis time" Yeah... great reason to pick one party over another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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