Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 For the love of god can no one read my posts?!!? Find some Esso Dexron 21065!!! Alex, I did read your post mate. Do you have any examples of people who have used this in the Supra with success ? I decided on trying to source the RP stuff as that thread over on Supra forums indicated to me that it has at least been tested with success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Alex, I did read your post mate. Do you have any examples of people who have used this in the Supra with success ? I decided on trying to source the RP stuff as that thread over on Supra forums indicated to me that it has at least been tested with success. It's used in the Skyline version of the same gearbox and Getrag recommend it...but no thanks to V160 oil always in the past being available, none of the Supra's I know have tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Can someone with a can of V160 oil handy, weigh it for me so I can work out postage cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 It's used in the Skyline version of the same gearbox and Getrag recommend it...but no thanks to V160 oil always in the past being available, none of the Supra's I know have tried it. Any chance you could help me find some of this stuff I have searched around but no luck yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'll see what I can dig up...go with the RP if you're happy there are no pitfalls to it. But I would like someone to get the Dexron 21065 to at least compare it! If I can sort out a source... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Found some info on the subject here: http://www.mkiv.com/pipermail/mkiv/Week-of-Mon-20020624/006425.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'll see what I can dig up...go with the RP if you're happy there are no pitfalls to it. But I would like someone to get the Dexron 21065 to at least compare it! If I can sort out a source... I cannot even find the RP stuff over here. The RP website listing the suppliers is from 2003 and most of them have gone out of business.... Anyone know where I can get royal purple synchromax ? This is f***king rediculous, what the hell is toyota thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Don't know what all the fuss is about. BMW, Maserati and GM all use versions of the same Gatrag box, all have their "own" oil for it. Analysis below, easisest to find is the BMW oil called MTF-LT-1 cSt@40 c 37.5 cSt@100 c 7.5 Viscosity index 172 SUS @ 100F 190.1 SUS @ 210 F 51.3 sliver Boron 205 Aluminum 1 Calcium Cadmium Chromium Copper Iron Magnesium 2 Manganese Molbdenum Sodium 2 Nickel Phosphorus 484 Lead Antimony Silicon Tin Vanadium Zinc 7 Total Acid Number 0.63 mgKOH/g viscosity -cP @ -10 c 2116 viscosity - cP 2 -20 c H4757 viscosity - cP @ -30 c H 12347 viscosity - cP @ - 40 c H 38246 API 35 Specific gravity @ 60/60 F .8501 Lb/Gal 7.080 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Don't know what all the fuss is about. BMW, Maserati and GM all use versions of the same Gatrag box, all have their "own" oil for it. Analysis below, easisest to find is the BMW oil called MTF-LT-1 cSt@40 c 37.5 cSt@100 c 7.5 Viscosity index 172 SUS @ 100F 190.1 SUS @ 210 F 51.3 sliver Boron 205 Aluminum 1 Calcium Cadmium Chromium Copper Iron Magnesium 2 Manganese Molbdenum Sodium 2 Nickel Phosphorus 484 Lead Antimony Silicon Tin Vanadium Zinc 7 Total Acid Number 0.63 mgKOH/g viscosity -cP @ -10 c 2116 viscosity - cP 2 -20 c H4757 viscosity - cP @ -30 c H 12347 viscosity - cP @ - 40 c H 38246 API 35 Specific gravity @ 60/60 F .8501 Lb/Gal 7.080 Someone fire that at Oilman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Ok, I managed to source some Royal purple here in this country and it will be with me by tomorrow. For anyone else who is interested you can get it from here: http://mbrgearbox.com/RoyalPurple.htm Price was just under £12 per quart (Just under 1 litre) and delivery was under £10 for next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220576&page=2 We found this synthetic blend by starting with the information in the Toyota Supra Repair Manual, which lists "ESSO ATF DEXTRON®D-21065" as an oem-approved replacement/equivalent for Toyota's V160 fluid. After many calls to Esso/Mobil/Exxon (even offering to buy a whole barrel of D21065 from them), we found out that D21065 isn't made any more, except (probably) exclusively for Toyota (or Getrag?), as a special order. Mobil also told us that D21065 is nothing but a simple "qualification code"" for plain old DextronII, so then they helped us track down the best 'modern equivalent' of their D21065: Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF, which is exactly the same fluid as the AAMCO-labelled product, but the Aaamco-label is easier to obtain by the quart. I've been using it in my 6spd for over a year. It shifts great and the shifter centers properly. Unfortunately: http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_Mercon_V_Synthetic_Blend_ATF.asp Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF Product Description DISCONTINUED - For a product data sheet or replacement product information, please see the contact information at the bottom of this document. Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF is a premium synthetic blend lubricant for automatic transmissions and other applications that require a fluid satisfying Ford's Mercon® V specification or General Motors' Dexron® -III or Dexron II specifications. It is also approved for applications where a Ford Mercon type fluid is recommended. Additionally, Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF is suitable for use in both newer and older Chrysler automatic transmission applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Unfortunately: http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_Mercon_V_Synthetic_Blend_ATF.asp Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF Product Description DISCONTINUED - For a product data sheet or replacement product information, please see the contact information at the bottom of this document. Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF is a premium synthetic blend lubricant for automatic transmissions and other applications that require a fluid satisfying Ford's Mercon® V specification or General Motors' Dexron® -III or Dexron II specifications. It is also approved for applications where a Ford Mercon type fluid is recommended. Additionally, Mobil Mercon V Synthetic Blend ATF is suitable for use in both newer and older Chrysler automatic transmission applications. Right well I'll be shutting up about that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraKid Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 this is really silly of toyota!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 ... rouge trader ... What, like blusher, and other makeup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 What, like blusher, and other makeup? Haha, just noticed that... Sorry my mistake. I will correct it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 No no, I'm intrigued to know why the Avon-lady has your contact details... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I may be being a plank but this is the Autobox Fluid right? If it is - then Crap !! Just when mine needs kinda doing soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 joe lad, did you check the main uk website? http://www.royalpurple.co.uk/motorsport/royalpurple.swf there are uk dealers. are you in essex? check the stockists page, you have solus engines and toomy field race engines in essex si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I may be being a plank but this is the Autobox Fluid right? If it is - then Crap !! Just when mine needs kinda doing soon No it's the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 really ? Thats good then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Make sure its Royal Purple Synchromax not the standard stuff, this is from SF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Thank you for your enquiry. After speaking with my contact over at EssoMobil I have found that the product isn't called Esso Dexron 21065 it is called Esso ATF D21065 with a Dexron Specification. Please find below full quotation for the Esso ATF D21065. A technical data sheet has been attached for your reference. Esso ATF D21065- 1 x 20lts £3.76 per litre £75.20 per 20 litre Delivery Period: Standard Delivery Period is 7-10 working days Delivery Charge: Standard Delivery Charge is £15.00 (but is dependable on total weight ordered and delivery area in UK) Payment Method: Debit Card Credit Card (+2.5% Credit Card charge) Cheque Payment must be received in full and in advance. Above price is for 1 x 20 litre container only. Trusting the above meets your requirements, we look forward to your reply. Best Regards, The County Oil Group Ltd Beca House, Ashville Way Ashville Industrial Estate Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 3EZ Tel:- 01928 718000 Fax:- 01928 716887 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Good work Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 joe lad, did you check the main uk website? http://www.royalpurple.co.uk/motorsport/royalpurple.swf there are uk dealers. are you in essex? check the stockists page, you have solus engines and toomy field race engines in essex si That is where I got my contact from mate. I used MBR, they have it on the shelf. Make sure its Royal Purple Synchromax not the standard stuff, this is from SF. The stuff I got was the synchromax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Nice one Alex (Esso ATF D21065 ) - That's what my Toyota contact said too and that it's approved by Toyota (UK) as the replacement for V160 oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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