Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Still thinking about my single upgrade and one thing Im not sure about is fuelling. Whats the benefit of a fuel kit i.e PHR stage 1, over drop in injectors using the stock rail etc? I see a number of people using drop in injectors and getting big bhp, so why the need for a fuel kit? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Its shiney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Its shiney that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 well you get a lot more in the kit, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Is this for real? so I dont need a fuel kit at all? just drop in injectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 What are you aiming for, stock rail, lines, fpr and single walbro are fine upto 550fwhp and possibly a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i run around 700 fwhp on a stock rail and 850cc side feeds with no probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Oh goodie So, with the PHR 2+ Turbo (or would another be better?) what injectors do I need? And what EMU would be best, cheap but not cheap and unreliable if u know what I mean. I dont want any problems with it. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I think a PHR 2+ is a little bigger than a T67, what power are you aiming for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Well not really considered, just more, but I guess a true 500 would be nice but the option of going higher would also be nice, everyone gets bored ! basically I want it to be able to be driven normally whenever I like, but it has the beans to go mental when I wish it to lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Id go for a smaller turbo if it was me (GT35/BL61/ PHR stage1) i had a phr stage 3 on mine for a short period and hated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 My advice would be to get some rides in various setups. I only know one person who had tried the PHR 2+ and he wasnt that impressed, too much lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 That was my original thinking, only started considering the stage 2+ because UK_Rich is selling one. Previously I was thinking of the Stage 1 or the street kit. I would like it to spool quickly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 ...And what EMU would be best, cheap but not cheap and unreliable if u know what I mean. I dont want any problems with it. I think if you continue down that route you are going to hit problems. Forget cheap - cheap will get you hassle. Also, before you buy anything I would have looked at the EMU first as this is the heart of the whole system. If that's not right, then all the fuel systems, turbos or anything else you buy is a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ok, so start me off. Which EMU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 That was my original thinking, only started considering the stage 2+ because UK_Rich is selling one. Previously I was thinking of the Stage 1 or the street kit. I would like it to spool quickly ! I'd recommend the Garrett GT35R, similar lag to a stock turbos, but with huge amounts more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ok, so start me off. Which EMU? Ryan is getting good reports on mapping with the Link ecu and its reasonably priced, he is fitting one to my EVO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ok, so start me off. Which EMU? Well, rather than go over all the old ground again (and I say that as I am sure you have asked most of these questions several times already), I would firstly look at the mappers available and their recommendations. IMO, the Motec is the better one out there and is well supported in the UK but with that comes a cost. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Yeah I have asked a few times before, not this question the thread was started for though. All the other questions stem form your answers, and yes I've asked them before, and yes I've had so many opinions, I tend to get lost. Remember you're talking to a novice here in terms of engineering knowledge. This link one sounds good, I've read a few reports on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Who sells the Garrett GT35R nick? I guess you do? does it come as a complete kit? i.e. a COMPLETE kit, that I can do myself. What figures are likely from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Who sells the Garrett GT35R nick? I guess you do? does it come as a complete kit? i.e. a COMPLETE kit, that I can do myself. What figures are likely from it? Speak with KylesTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Who sells the Garrett GT35R nick? I guess you do? does it come as a complete kit? i.e. a COMPLETE kit, that I can do myself. What figures are likely from it? The Garrett turbos are cheaper direct from the US, kylestt can get them at good prices I believe. There isn't a kit as such for the Supra, but I can supply a complete HKS single turbo kit minus the turbo that would be able to be used with the GT35R. Here's my dyno at 1.2bar, see garage for full spec. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9592/542hpdynopl3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ok, glad I asked these quesitons now, complete change around, once again So Nic, can you price the HKS Kit for me, and it has everything yes? will it connect to my FMIC ? (Greddy 2 Row Spec M). I wont be able to fabricate stuff myself, so just need it all to bolt together really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ok, glad I asked these quesitons now, complete change around, once again So Nic, can you price the HKS Kit for me, and it has everything yes? will it connect to my FMIC ? (Greddy 2 Row Spec M). I wont be able to fabricate stuff myself, so just need it all to bolt together really. The HKS kit includes absolutely everything,. The IC pipe may need to be modified to fit the FMIC, but you'll have this problem with any single turbo kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Remember you're talking to a novice here in terms of engineering knowledge. Who sells the Garrett GT35R nick? I guess you do? does it come as a complete kit? i.e. a COMPLETE kit, that I can do myself. I am sorry my friend but that just shows a complete contradiction. The first post says you are a novice and the second says you are going to fit it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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