supra-ireland Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I was driving along, temp gauge was normal. Started to feel excessive heat coming in from engine so I pulled it. Just as I pulled in the engine died and the engien warning light came on and the temp gauge went up full. Opened the bonnet. a pipe from the radiator had come off so I'd been driving the car for about 10 miles with no water. The heat off the engine was incredible and the smell wasn't pretty. Waited for the engine to cool down and filled the radiator with water. Tried starting the engine, no chance. The starter motor turns over fine but there's not the slightest kick out of the engine. I'm hoping to take off the head and have a look but I don't really know what signs of damage to look for. Please help. What should I look for? Are there any tests I can perform to try to see what damage I've done. Like I said the heat coming off the engine was really hot when I stopped. What's the worst case scenario here? Any help would really be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Worst case if you have probably melted something if your running with no water. If you take it apart look for the obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godmutha Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Lol... Matthew.... I think that's the most vague answer you could've given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Lol... Matthew.... I think that's the most vague answer you could've given well theres plenty of things that could have melted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-ireland Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare No, it's a J-spec TT. Why, does this make things s little more positive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 No, it's a J-spec TT. Why, does this make things s little more positive? no worse...na engines cost penuts, tt ones are alot more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-ireland Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 no worse...na engines cost penuts, tt ones are alot more.. So was this comment "if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare " just some sarcasm that I failed to detect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So was this comment "if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare " just some sarcasm that I failed to detect? its just if you look in the f/s section there are about 3 na engines all less than 300 quid. tt ones are over a grand.(and harder to get hold of) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So was this comment "if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare " just some sarcasm that I failed to detect? I think hes just trying to make a sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So was this comment "if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare " just some sarcasm that I failed to detect? You're reading too much into it or not reading it correctly. He's saying he has a spare NA engine if you need it...which is good of him to offer. Get some water in it and test it - we're just guessing till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So was this comment "if it's an n/a engine you've fooked, i have one spare " just some sarcasm that I failed to detect? No. I read it as a genuine offer to help you out. N/a engine are cheap as chips. You can pick one up for about £100, whereas TT engine will set you back about 2.5k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-ireland Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Get some water in it and test it - we're just guessing till then. Could you be abit more specific, I'm no expert. I've put water in the radiator and tried to start it but to no avail. Is this what you meant or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I would have a look at the plugs to see what state they are in after the overheat, post up a few pics if you dont know what you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Bloody hell, the TT engines value has just hot up by 1.5K in 2 minutes! It sounds like something obviously not happy. Potentially you could have a lot of problems, or you could have been lucky and had none. There's also everything in between. (Is that any vaguer than Matt's reply?) Start off with obvious things. Whip the plugs out and check them. If they're good, then check for compression. If it's cranking, but not actualy trying to start, then my guess is one of these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-ireland Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Bloody hell, the TT engines value has just hot up by 1.5K in 2 minutes! It sounds like something obviously not happy. Potentially you could have a lot of problems, or you could have been lucky and had none. There's also everything in between. (Is that any vaguer than Matt's reply?) Start off with obvious things. Whip the plugs out and check them. If they're good, then check for compression. If it's cranking, but not actualy trying to start, then my guess is one of these two. Ok, thanks for all the help. I'll check the plugs first. Do you think it's a somewhat positive sign that the engine cranks, trying to start but won't kick it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ok, thanks for all the help. I'll check the plugs first. Do you think it's a somewhat positive sign that the engine cranks, trying to start but won't kick it? To be honest mate it's all guess work, but hey, it's obviously not seized solid if it turns over. Good luck, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ok, thanks for all the help. I'll check the plugs first. Do you think it's a somewhat positive sign that the engine cranks, trying to start but won't kick it? yes it is a positive sign, the engines are very strong although heat will obviously melt them, the plugs hopefully is the weakest link so as said check them first;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uloveit Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 sounds like headgasket.no compression to start the car once it overheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-ireland Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Ok, so I replaced all 6 plugs and the engine still won't start. I'm going to buy a compression tester and get some readings next. Could someone tell me the location of the fuel pump fuse that I have to remove before running the tests. Also, what sort of compression values are regarded as being healthy for the Supra? -Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Ok, so I replaced all 6 plugs and the engine still won't start. I'm going to buy a compression tester and get some readings next. Could someone tell me the location of the fuel pump fuse that I have to remove before running the tests. Also, what sort of compression values are regarded as being healthy for the Supra? -Thanks 8:5:1 are stock compression values i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Ok, so I replaced all 6 plugs and the engine still won't start. I'm going to buy a compression tester and get some readings next. Could someone tell me the location of the fuel pump fuse that I have to remove before running the tests. Also, what sort of compression values are regarded as being healthy for the Supra? -Thanks Mate, before you get too deep into this, have you checked the for fuel and spark? If you have then just ignore me and buy that compression tester. Not sure what the compression figures are, but the 8.5:1 quoted in another reply is the ratio and not the compression figure you will see on the tester. Sure CW could give you an indication of what pressure you should expect to see. Good luck and last year I left the clip of the bottom hose at the waterpump join and dumped my coolant. Gauge went off the scale and I feared the worse as like you the heat from the engine bay seemed immense. I let it cool down, replaced the coolant and its been fine since. Fingers crossed and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBrett Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 sorry to hear this pall, good luck with finding the fault;) going on other posts the comp should be 8.5 X 1bar (14.7psi) 124.95 psi just thought i would clear things up abit, most testers read in bar's and pound's anyways:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 headgasket id say, fooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 going on other posts the comp should be 8.5 X 1bar (14.7psi) 124.95 psi just thought i would clear things up abit, most testers read in bar's and pound's anyways:d Not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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