SUPRASUZUKI Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 The turbo bodies are water cooled as part of the engine cooling system (via the radiator). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 In my ignorance and only owning an N/A I had incorrectly assumed that that the intercooler system worked much like the standard radiator system and was water cooling the turbo. If the Intercooler is just an air to air heat exchanger how is air forced round the system? is there a diagram of how this works anywhere? over kill The intercooler is just a big box with pipes running through it. The air (compressed and therefore hot) from the turbo gets feed through the pipes in the intercooler. The intercooler itself relies on the fact that the car is moving and air is being forced through it. Therefore, the air which gets forced through the cooler by the momentum of the car saps the heat from the air from the turbo and thus making it colder when it enters your engine. The intercooler is usesless on a car which isnt moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 The intercooler is just a big box with pipes running through it. The air (compressed and therefore hot) from the turbo gets feed through the pipes in the intercooler. The intercooler itself relies on the fact that the car is moving and air is being forced through it. Therefore, the air which gets forced through the cooler by the momentum of the car saps the heat from the air from the turbo and thus making it colder when it enters your engine. The intercooler is usesless on a car which isnt moving well i would not want to put my car on a dyno without one:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 It looks much better without the splitter - even more crazy and agressive, so right up my street. Pictures?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 wait will post more when I have the lights back in and semi cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 well i would not want to put my car on a dyno without one:D What you mean is, you wouldnt want to put your car on a dyno without a fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 What you mean is, you wouldnt want to put your car on a dyno without a fan! Well, if it was just a fan and no IC then no...I still would not want it on a dyno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Well, if it was just a fan and no IC then no...I still would not want it on a dyno I read your other thread, no need to take it out on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I read your other thread, no need to take it out on me What can I say? And regarding the other thread, I am pissed off in the extreme so woe betide any newbie asking dumb as feck questions tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 What can I say? And regarding the other thread, I am pissed off in the extreme so woe betide any newbie asking dumb as feck questions tonight Whats the red button for How do I get more power from an NA Whats the MPG of a Supra Whats the tyre pressure on 19"'s Whats the biggest wheels I can fit You could answer these and get them out the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Whats the red button for How do I get more power from an NA Whats the MPG of a Supra Whats the tyre pressure on 19"'s Whats the biggest wheels I can fit You could answer these and get them out the way And that's the one that really gets to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Therefore, the air which gets forced through the cooler by the momentum of the car saps the heat from the air from the turbo and thus making it colder when it enters your engine. Well if you're going to be picky, then so am I. If it's the momentum of the car that forces air through the 'cooler, then it follows that if I add weight to my car (thus increasing it's mass) it will have more momentum whilst in motion and therefore will be able to force more air through the 'cooler and therefore remove more heat! This will obviously lead to HP gains! Add weight - go faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Add weight - go faster! Works for the Bugatti Veyron Btw, where was i being picky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Whats the red button for How do I get more power from an NA Whats the MPG of a Supra Whats the tyre pressure on 19"'s Whats the biggest wheels I can fit You could answer these and get them out the way Lx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 NOTE. Air to water intercoolers (like Liberty / Legacy) are better than air to air, but more costly to make. Obviously water can soak up more heat and transfer it than air! Good copy and paste from a scooby site I have issues with this bit btw. Chargecoolers are a different solution to intercoolers, with their own pros and cons. Heatsoak is a much bigger issue with chargecoolers - if water is really good at taking heat and storing it compared to air, then air must be rubbish at taking heat out of water. So while the initial cooling is better, with longer hard usage it's worse, and also once you come off boost and the charge air temps go down, the chargecooler is actually heating the air charge up Also the plumbing, coolant, pump etc take up a fair bit of weight, there is packaging issues, potential leaks and pump failures, and a slight power drain just to run it. However for some setups it's ideal, mid and rear engine cars for example. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Good copy and paste from a scooby site I have issues with this bit btw. Chargecoolers are a different solution to intercoolers, with their own pros and cons. Heatsoak is a much bigger issue with chargecoolers - if water is really good at taking heat and storing it compared to air, then air must be rubbish at taking heat out of water. So while the initial cooling is better, with longer hard usage it's worse, and also once you come off boost and the charge air temps go down, the chargecooler is actually heating the air charge up Also the plumbing, coolant, pump etc take up a fair bit of weight, there is packaging issues, potential leaks and pump failures, and a slight power drain just to run it. However for some setups it's ideal, mid and rear engine cars for example. -Ian I thought it maybe useful, never claimed it to be mine, better effort than if I had made it up though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I thought it maybe useful, never claimed it to be mine, better effort than if I had made it up though And there was me getting all impressed and excited at your incredible knowledge ....that isnt Fake!!! Lxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIL Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Out of interest has anyone made/fitted a water spray for the intercooler on their Supra? Just wondering? If they have did it have any noticable effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I have a CO2 spraybar, turns the fmic white with frost. Works great (for the couple of minutes it takes to empty 5KG of liquid CO2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 And there was me getting all impressed and excited at your incredible knowledge ....that isnt Fake!!! Lxx Yes I have been found out, still all worth it if it made you excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 no its air... Carl, be very careful not to spill any of the air when you remove the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Carl, be very careful not to spill any of the air when you remove the pipe. LMFAO!! nice one nic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Excellent thread........glad Im stoned and laughing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 haha I'm not stoned but I'm still laughing to think that I'm so newb to think that there was coolant running around the FMIC.. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 The intercooler is usesless on a car which isnt moving Unless it's a fully ducted and totally sealed front mount and you can feel air being pulled through from the fan(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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