Willson Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 A couple of fantastic faked videos on this page... http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/haitiufos.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 ......................................... Quite right Matt...I was falling asleep typing that sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Finally (food for thought)what about other infinite dimensions I presume you mean parallel universes rather than spatial dimensions. These alternate universes might be located along one spatial dimension, but how many spacial dimensions are there? X, Y, Z, Time... String theory predicts another 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Is space really infinite? How is that possible? If space isn't infinate, then what is outside it? And how would that be possible?! Something has to be infinite, if space isn't, then it must be in something, and that might be infinite, if it's not then it's also in something, etc. etc. It's reasonable to assume that our universe is infinite because if it isn't there must be some strong force of some kind (wall?) holding it in whatever it's in, which just sounds silly! So the universe is infinite, and galaxies expand within it. How many galaxies? It's reasonable to assume an infinite number of galaxies. Within our galaxy alone we are pretty much in the middle of one of the 'arms' (technical term please?), is it reasonable to assume that planets on the outer edges are travelling faster (expansion) and hence time travels slower for them? So they are less evolved then? How far advanced would the planets near the monster centre of the galaxy be then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 How many galaxies? It's reasonable to assume an infinite number of galaxies. It's not. There's most certainly a finite number of galaxies in our 1 universe, a shit load yes, but still a finite number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QSC Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 At least most UFOs are likely to be experimental types of aircraft from one country's air force or another - the question is, is it possible that these aircraft are based on something from another world that possibly landed here at some point ? Look at ancient Aztec & Egyptian art - some of those certainly look like representations of something from outer space coming to Earth - after all, we know huge meteors have crashed here in the past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Something has to be infinite, if space isn't, then it must be in something, and that might be infinite, if it's not then it's also in something, etc. etc. And this is where most people fall down They see a container that has the universe inside of it. But outside the universe there is nothing. Not space, not a vacuum of space-time, but nothing at all. So there is no space, no structure, no container, no dimensions, no time, just, well, nothing. So really, it doesn't exist. How can you say such utter nothingness exists? You can't measure it as there is nothing to measure. Ergo, the universe is the only thing that exists. It's not "in" anything. It's reasonable to assume that our universe is infinite because if it isn't there must be some strong force of some kind (wall?) holding it in whatever it's in, which just sounds silly! Nope, it's finite but curved, so the mysterious "they" say. Start at point A and go in a straight line and one day you'll end up back at point A - theoretically. However, there isn't enough time to do it even at light speed before the universe reaches heat death so I wouldn't bother programming the sat nav Within our galaxy alone we are pretty much in the middle of one of the 'arms' (technical term please?) I think the technical term is "arm" is it reasonable to assume that planets on the outer edges are travelling faster (expansion) and hence time travels slower for them? So they are less evolved then? How far advanced would the planets near the monster centre of the galaxy be then? That's an interesting question but it assumes that life began at the same time as us and followed the same evolutionary path as us. As we've only really made big technological strides in the last miniscule blip of the universe's existance, bringing relativity into play to get a couple of years drop on anyone isn't going to be a major factor in anything. A race could fire up, last 10,000 years, spread out amongst the stars, and vanish, and the universe would grow older by less than one millionth of it's age. Other life out there not only faces the challenge of existing, and progressing, and being able and willing to find us - it also has to happen in the same 1/1,000,000th part of the universe's lifespan so far. Bugger. Oh and the galactic centre is a bit hostile to life due to radiation and all that. So not very advanced at all -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazB Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I think it's all about what drugs you are taking, in the 60's pilots seeing space ships Acid. My brother and sister in law have seen UFO's during a skunk smoking session. The Aliens in Men in Black seem possible just after watching the film for 2 hours So my thought are if somebody put some form of idea into your head the posibilites sometime seem to become real, this is all part of human instinct but it doesn't mean it's for real. But if people want to be believe in UFO's with funny looking aliens inside it's ok by me as i like film of this theme they can be quite amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 The truth is out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I presume you mean parallel universes rather than spatial dimensions. These alternate universes might be located along one spatial dimension, but how many spacial dimensions are there? X, Y, Z, Time... String theory predicts another 6. On this point, some unorthodox scientist in the 'States claims to have come up with an alternative theory which explains "everything" using just four spatial dimensions, plus two time dimensions. Apparently this simplfies things a hell of a lot, and also opens up the possibility of time travel because you are free to navigate around in a loop in two-dimensional time without having to retrace your steps. I wonder if we will ever actually bottom out which of these theories is the correct one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 right, i havent read through all this thread but my boss used to fly phantom jet planes from the 60s to the mid 80's, he has seen loads of things in the skys, one that sticks out is he was on exercise off the coast of scotland and something came up on the radar approx five miles across above there plane, the pilot (my boss) and the nav both saw it and it was also recorded as apparently they tape the radar, my boss (or the nav) radioeod in and after a large pause they were told to come back imiediatly, they were then pulled in to the office and were told to hand over the radar recording and basicly told they haddent seen anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 The known universe is expanding, at some point it may collapse in on itself, due to gravity slowing the expansion progress. String theory is just a theory as are they all. Some scientists are becoming religious(not in the contemporary sense) to a degree as there is a growing notion something started this all off. Big bang, infinite space, matter etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 i also have seen something but i'm not going in to it as you all know what i'm like and its doubt full you will belive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Anyone interested in UFOs etc needs to check this thread: http://z14.invisionfree.com/hadyn/index.php?showtopic=3206 Contains lots of discussion about UFOs and aliens as well as links to vids and other information related to sightings/theories etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazla Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Until recently, we’ve looked at life in a pretty conservative way. Wildlife films on TV help to reinforce the notion that we – and our fellow-creatures – live within a fairly narrow range of temperatures and environments, and that, deep down, we all bear a strong family resemblance. But this complacency has all changed. In just the past three or four years, biologists have discovered that life on Earth can exist in the most extreme places, and in the most bizarre forms. Microbes have been found down boreholes two kilometres deep. They live inside rocks scattered across the freezing wastes of Antarctica. White crabs and giant tubeworms inhabit scalding deep-sea vents that never see the rays of the Sun. These forms of life may look more akin to ‘green slime’ than to our usual idea of life on Earth. But they are still alive. When life gets started, and wherever, it seems determined to hang on … for dear life! So if life got started on our planet – and it did so pretty quickly – then why not on some of our neighbour-worlds in the Solar System? I believe in all forms of life existing on other planets, i dont know if its me just wanting to believe but i think its impossible for there not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I believe in all forms of life existing on other planets, i dont know if its me just wanting to believe but i think its impossible for there not be. Most scientists in this field agree with you, the life by deep sea vents without sun heat, think it was deduced as long back as the late 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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