CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Laid that one out for all didnt i really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 how did that go in the end? i remember you saying about that ages ago and was going to let us know what it was like when fitted. so, how is it? Erm long story, but never got round to finish getting it installed, just awaiting a part to plug into the fuel line. Car is off the road for the winter now. Got loads of bits waiting to go on including harnesses, eibachs, new dials and gauges. As soon as it starts warming up it will be better than ever! maybe with a new front bumper too, watch this space.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 its like that with everything, thats how drug addicts start Its the shakes and waking up in cold sweats I hate the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 can't beat the instant power from 0-40mph in 1st gear in it very fun car to drive, and great to learn how to drive a decent rwd car without silly amounts of power. i think about 90% of the time the power is more than enough for everyday driving and motorway cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 can't beat the instant power from 0-40mph in 1st gear in it very fun car to drive, and great to learn how to drive a decent rwd car without silly amounts of power. i think about 90% of the time the power is more than enough for everyday driving and motorway cruising. Yano I hate to say it but my 1.0 polo can do 30 in 1st lol 40 doesn't seem that impressive so give me some more figures, what's the most you can get from it or possibly a 0-60 time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yano I hate to say it but my 1.0 polo can do 30 in 1st lol 40 doesn't seem that impressive so give me some more figures, what's the most you can get from it or possibly a 0-60 time? yeah it will do 30 mph eventually. 0-60 is about 6.5-6.8. its basically the same as a hot hatch, like a clio 182, civic typre r etc... but obviously your getting looks, rwd, sound and torque ontop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 yeah it will do 30 mph eventually. 0-60 is about 6.5-6.8. its basically the same as a hot hatch, like a clio 182, civic typre r etc... but obviously your getting looks, rwd, sound and torque ontop Fair enough! The looks can't be beat! Such a sexy thing to look at! I bet with a few lil simple mods can sure boost up its performance a wee bit! Its quite amazing that a low powered naturaly aspirated engine can propel such a heavy car at hot hatch speeds, I always looked at it as a flaw but it realy isn't! Definatly my next car before I go for the big boys tt6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I bet with a few lil simple mods can sure boost up its performance a wee bit! Errr. No not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Errr. No not really. See I knew someone would jump to that statement, its been known after a decat, induction kit and few other things you can get bout 250 out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Errr. No not really. depends what he means by a wee bit to be honest the NA's reputation as being sluggish is only really there because the TT is so fast especially with a few cheap modifications. A NA is "comparable" to most companies 'sports' cars, pretty much all the hot hatches, 330i 3.0L Z4 bmw's, porsche boxster, S200 and the like.............i accept some of these 'may' have the edge but there will not be that much in it...... A stock TT starts to mix it with high end manufacturers stuff, M3/5's, low level AMG stuff, NSX, 300zx, Evo's, Impreza's, low end 911's etc........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 See I knew someone would jump to that statement, its been known after a decat, induction kit and few other things you can get bout 250 out of it! I typed a long post out and then thought "fu*k it" as you obviously know something we all don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 My N/a's great. Engines mods after decat and Air filter just arent worth the money. Best to go TT afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 My N/a's great. Engines mods after decat and Air filter just arent worth the money. Best to go TT afterwards. Oviously after the simple mods are done you stop there on any n/a to be honest cause its gets expensive I think my goal if anything is to give it that bit hp and then turn it to a handling car! Unlike the U.S of A we have things called corners on our roads and some are just a delight to take at speed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 See I knew someone would jump to that statement, its been known after a decat, induction kit and few other things you can get bout 250 out of it! You can get a little more out of the NA's, but to get 250bhp is simply not possible without major money spent. As Scooter says, the gains on the NA's look very clouded when compared to the TT mods everyone talks about on here. The TT is simple to get massive initial gains. It makes a 15-20bhp gain on an NA look like nothing, when compared to other NA marks it's perfectly normal to 'only' be able to make a ~10% gain without major/expensive engine work. With the 2JZ the plentyful supply of cheap TT engines it's simply more cost effective to switch to the TT if you want to make big power gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaRkYbOy72 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So what do you suggest to do to an N/A to get the most gain at the most cost effective price Homer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So what do you suggest to do to an N/A to get the most gain at the most cost effective price Homer? Sell it and buy a TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So what do you suggest to do to an N/A to get the most gain at the most cost effective price Homer? I would think his first suggestion might be to go and use the search button as this is asked and discussed almost daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 I know it would be just easier and cost effective to jump a tt in there but I aint ready for that sort of power as of yet hence why I'm startin with an n/a s it realy that hard to make just a tad more power on an n/a? Its weird how a guy I know made roughly between 240 and 250 with a simple decat and cat back, induction and fiddled with the mapping a lil bit, larger fuel pump and injectors and didn't cost him more that £400 'apperently'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I know it would be just easier and cost effective to jump a tt in there but I aint ready for that sort of power as of yet hence why I'm startin with an n/a s it realy that hard to make just a tad more power on an n/a? Its weird how a guy I know made roughly between 240 and 250 with a simple decat and cat back, induction and fiddled with the mapping a lil bit, larger fuel pump and injectors and didn't cost him more that £400 'apperently'. Tell the guy you know he is a liar and is talking bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I know it would be just easier and cost effective to jump a tt in there but I aint ready for that sort of power as of yet hence why I'm startin with an n/a s it realy that hard to make just a tad more power on an n/a? Its weird how a guy I know made roughly between 240 and 250 with a simple decat and cat back, induction and fiddled with the mapping a lil bit, larger fuel pump and injectors and didn't cost him more that £400 'apparently'. I think that's the key word there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So what do you suggest to do to an N/A to get the most gain at the most cost effective price Homer? Well that my friend would depend on budget and your future aims for the car. If you are determined to stick to the stock NA engine then: - New 02 sensors - A full service - Full decat - Lightweight catback exhaust - Tubular headers Thats about £2k spent already for around 20bhp gains If you don't care about keeping it NA - Swap for TT About £3k for a basic conversion at about 100bhp gains Another £2k and it's a further 100bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I know it would be just easier and cost effective to jump a tt in there but I aint ready for that sort of power as of yet hence why I'm startin with an n/a s it realy that hard to make just a tad more power on an n/a? Its weird how a guy I know made roughly between 240 and 250 with a simple decat and cat back, induction and fiddled with the mapping a lil bit, larger fuel pump and injectors and didn't cost him more that £400 'apperently'. He's talking crap, don't listen to this bloke as there are several major mistakes in just the few items you posted there. Are you associated with couv3z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 I had a feeling it was to good to be true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsupraman82 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 As an entry level supra the N/A is more that enough, i know what the guys are saying about the power addiction.....you will get it! i have had my N/A for over a year now and still getting used to it. there are a lot more factors that just power! i.e the sheer size of the beast! the most expensive mod i have done is making my drive wider so i can park it there and get out of it! also there is the factor of RWD if your not used to it, then a TT is not the first supra for you, you could be pulling railings out your arse before you know it! Anyway my point is.......for what they are they are great cars! and still a supra. if you do get an N/A there is not a lot you can do to make them to get more power gains and its not worth spending BIG bucks when the money your spending on mods can go in a jar until your ready to go up to a TT. i dont mean to sound patronising at all, however the TT's are VERY powerful motors and i personally feel these should only be driven by drivers with lots of RWD experience. i went in a TT a few weeks ago and i did need new pants!! would LOVE to own one, but not even sure if im ready yet after having my N/A a year! at the end of the day, put your saftey first and what you feel happy driving, im not doubting your ability.....its just something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 the most expensive mod i have done is making my drive wider so i can park it there and get out of it! Nice one! Oh yes, NA's. I've had one for 3 years, I don't regret buying it and I'm still very happy with it. I don't care for blistering performance as much as most other people on here. Occassionally I'd like to get blown by twins just to see what it feels like, but not enough to make me want to upgrade to a TT: I've got more important uses for my cash. If you're already thinking about power gains, test drive a manual NA and a TT (manual or auto). If you still feel the NA is sluggish (and remember you'll get used to it as time goes on), then I'd suggest you buy a TT. If you do, for goodness sake be careful especially in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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