Tannhauser Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 For counting purposes 90 degrees is correct but to get the full work out from a pressup its better to go all the way down to just before your weight is on the floor. Stretches your pecks more and gives a better workout. Same goes with benchpress. To actually count 90 degrees is all thats needed but if you go that little bit further your muscle will get a better workout. Think about how much weight you can press with your elbow's at 90 degrees and how much less you can press going down to your chest. Its quite a difference with me so i try to do all my workouts as far as i can stretch. Well, i did when i worked out lol. Scott =op Nope,the same doesn't go with bench press, at least not if we're talking about 'standards accepted by competitions/official bodies'. As far as I know, most powerlifting federations require you not only to touch the chest with the bar, but actually start from a paused position on the chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Most of the competitors touch their chest with their elbow's at 90 degrees though. Don't know anything about competition actually, was only going with the diagram on the bench press machine. lol Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 True story. Came home from work once, had a cuppa, then went upstairs to log on here on the PC in my lads bedroom. As I walked through the doorway, bang, I saw stars... it felt like someone had blatted me across the nose with an iron bar. I instinctively jumped backwards and fell flat on my arse, totally shocked and in considerable pain. I got to my feet and turned the landing light on...wtf, my son had installed a pull-up bar across his bedroom door frame just low enough for my wife to reach. dangerous stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Same goes with benchpress. To actually count 90 degrees is all thats needed but if you go that little bit further your muscle will get a better workout. Most of the competitors touch their chest with their elbow's at 90 degrees though. So if: (a) you get a better stretch by bending elbows past 90 degrees and (b) for most people, the bar is actually touching the chest at 90 degrees ...then how does anyone get beyond 90 degrees without actually sinking the bar through their lungs? If you say 'by pressing to the neck', I'm ringing the post-hoc police Picky is my middle name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Erm no, i meant professionals not "most people". Hence the reason i said "competitors", their chest's are HUGE and stick out miles further than your average joe so when their elbows are at 90 degrees the bar is already touching their chest. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 When i did karate we used to do 25 then hold yourself halfway for 10 seconds then another 25 and that was on your nuckles on a wooden floor, god i used to be hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Erm no, i meant professionals not "most people". Hence the reason i said "competitors", their chest's are HUGE and stick out miles further than your average joe so when their elbows are at 90 degrees the bar is already touching their chest. Scott =op Well, without actually measuring some people, I can't dispute that, but my guess is that you're wrong. Maybe if you're 250lbs plus, chest thickness might make a significant difference, but that's the minority of competitive powerlifters (given that the weight categories go down to 'teeny-weeny'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Thats not picky mate, thats clutching at straws I know what i meant, you didn't read what i wrote properly and made a statement based on what you thought i meant. Whats the big deal with saying i'm wrong everytime you reply? Who really cares? Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 When i did karate we used to do 25 then hold yourself halfway for 10 seconds then another 25 and that was on your nuckles on a wooden floor, god i used to be hard. I thought we were talking about knuckle pressups! There are loads of ways to do pressups that can make it easier/harder, I think with your hands below where your shoulders are is about right (or maybe an inch further out). Try doing some with your index finger and thumb touching to form a triangle, I can do 1/2 then I fall to the floor! My brother can do about 50 like that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I thought we were talking about knuckle pressups! There are loads of ways to do pressups that can make it easier/harder, I think with your hands below where your shoulders are is about right (or maybe an inch further out). Try doing some with your index finger and thumb touching to form a triangle, I can do 1/2 then I fall to the floor! My brother can do about 50 like that!! Try a one armed one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Whats the big deal with saying i'm wrong everytime you reply? Who really cares? Scott =op Well, you made a couple of statements based on your perspective, which, as you've said, is based on looking at the diagrams on the bench press machine. I think they're misleading and I happen to disagree. To me, that's not a big deal - it's part of a regular discussion where there are two contrary viewpoints. I care just about enough to post on the topic. I can understand that to be challenged over two or three posts must be exhausting, but try not to get so snippy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 When i did karate we used to do 25 then hold yourself halfway for 10 seconds then another 25 and that was on your nuckles on a wooden floor, god i used to be hard. Did you damage your knuckles? I used to do them, but think they are just to painful if you're obese.. - like I was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 56 in a minute flat at the moment. But with the new RAF fitness levels in and the new pressup routine where you only have to drop the chest about half way, I reckon I should be good for about 60-65 with a little more training. There's only one way to get better at press-ups and that's to actually do them! Assuming bench presses and chin ups will help just doesn't. What's worse is trying to bang out the highest possible situps you can in a minute too straight after! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 The RAF PTI's and PEdOs told us yesterday during the fitness briefing that going down to floow (i.e. fist flat on floor level) is actually bad for your joints and causing too much strain, hence they brought in the extended 90d elbow rule, for that and because of women and touching their breasts or something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 The RAF PTI's and PEdOs told us yesterday during the fitness briefing that going down to floow (i.e. fist flat on floor level) is actually bad for your joints and causing too much strain, hence they brought in the extended 90d elbow rule, for that and because of women and touching their breasts or something! omg lol. BTW, any jobs going at the RAF? looking for one.. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 It's not a case of just 'getting a job' Carl! Certainly not for an Officer role anyway. It's taken me 8 months and I haven't been selected yet, so many interviews, assessments and hoops to jump through. If you wish to enlist in service as per say the army as a bottom ranker working their way up, then you can do so fairly quickly. But your fitness still needs to be tip top and you have to pass selection interviews and meds too. Check out the RAF Careers website and see what roles interest you. I'm going for RAF Regiment Officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 You're right mate. Its a career. And almost a lifestyle choice. Good on you mate, I don't think I have it in me to commit to that. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Just tried... Three.... yep thats it, three Lost a lot of weight lately, but obviously a lot of muscle as well. Might be time to start doing some lifting instead of just cardio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Normally about 75-80 proper ones in 2 mins when doing the Basic Personnal fitness Assessment (BPFA) followed by a good 70 SitUps again in 2 mins followed by a 1.5 mile run in around 08:45mins not bad i dont think for 32!! richie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzeh Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Um....about 5 Heh. Gotta work that into my gym routine soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tones Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dont know really know as press ups are for fairies, i can throw up 130kg for 9 reps or 5 reps from 140kg on the bench though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoolsBlue Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 my last record was 35 in a miniute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Just tried... Three.... yep thats it, three Lost a lot of weight lately, but obviously a lot of muscle as well. Might be time to start doing some lifting instead of just cardio! Darryl that made me laugh....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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