Scoboblio Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Well researched facts rather than random spoutings of insanity Thanks for that, glad someone went to the bother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Well researched facts that don't disagree with random spoutings of insanity Very good, but it doesn't stop the fact that if a pedestrian has their foot on the crossing, it's illegal for a car to drive over it. So whether or not it's the right thing to do that a pedestrian should wait for cars to stop, it's also very silly for a car to continue at the same speed when there are pedestrians walking along the pavement near a crossing - let alone actually waiting to walk across!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Very good, but it doesn't stop the fact that if a pedestrian has their foot on the crossing, it's illegal for a car to drive over it. So whether or not it's the right thing to do that a pedestrian should wait for cars to stop, it's also very silly for a car to continue at the same speed when there are pedestrians walking along the pavement near a crossing - let alone actually waiting to walk across!! Of course it is, but that doesn't mean that "If they're too close then they weren't driving with enough awareness." does it? Sooner or later you have to drive past the crossing, if Mr Pedestrian chooses that exact moment to jump out infront of you, who's fault's that? The pedestrian should wait for traffic to stop in the same way that the car should be aware of people waiting to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I think people who stand right on the edge of the pavement waiting to cross should shot. Whats wrong with these people? I cant make my van thinner as i go past/round the corner and they then look at you as if you're the cnut. Nearly hurt one woman in bath who couldnt control her children and was swinging a small kids bike/car plastic thing about and she swung it into the road and i nearly hit but managed to avoid it so i gave a toot and even the other pedestrians thought i was in the wrong. Being a pedestrian does not give you right of way. A bit off topic but i needed to vent that and now i dont care as i never walk anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 It's give and take from both sides - the motorist should prepare to stop and keep their speed down (most X-ings are in 20 MpH zones anyway), but the pedestrian should make allowances for the fact that 1.5 tons @ 20-30 MpH can't stop on a whim. If we all had a bit more give and take the whole world would be a happier place!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Almost, but not quite: ''At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous You MUST NOT loiter on any type of crossing. [Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)] 19 Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped. 20 Where there is an island in the middle of a zebra crossing, wait on the island and follow Rule 19 before you cross the second half of the road – it is a separate crossing.'' It is the pedestrians responsibility to ensure that traffic has stopped BEFORE they move onto the crossing. Once they do, however, they have right of way over traffic. (Whether they do or not is another matter, though) From here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070108 I was half way across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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