Calling e-mail savvy IT people

[Chris Wilson]

I won a very dodgy sounding Ebay auction for a 900 quid compressor, despite repeated attempts by e-mail to get the seller to ring me, or send me HIS contact number I got no joy, just 2 vague replies from a Yahoo account. The last one is below with all headers. Now can any of you IT experts tell me, or hazard an eductaed guess whether this came from someone in Wales, UK? From the time sent line I personally think it came from the USA, as it's in Pacific Standard Time. Anything else to be gleaned here? Cheers.

 

 

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hello,

the compressor will be available for pick up on Monday.Or we can have it delivered to your address.

It's running on gas/petrol not gas/propane.

 

Kind Regards

[rovervi]

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[Chris Wilson]

Can't seem to show the "Created" line without a screenshot, so here goes:http://www.gatesgarth.com/screenshot.jpg

[Glosphil]

that only shows the ip addy of the yahoo mail server that it came from. All other IP's are either AOL, or RIPE network. Nothing is in Wales, but then it wouldnt be.

 

http://www.iplocationfinder.com/location.htm

http://ws.arin.net/whois/

[CJ]

Chris, give it up fella. It's a scam.

 

As my old Dad used to say, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

[robin]

with webmail you just cannot tell. You can logon to any email server based anywhere from anywhere.

[osso]

the originating ip address is from the uk

 

193.111.201.42 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - GRADWELL CORE HOSTING NETWORK IN TELEHOUSE TFM 40 LONDON

[osso]

i also noticed the seller mentioned that it is available for pickup from monday?

[JustGav]

the originating ip address is from the uk

 

193.111.201.42 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - GRADWELL CORE HOSTING NETWORK IN TELEHOUSE TFM 40 LONDON

 

Yup, just looked that up as well, on the originating ip address.

 

Gradwell is based in Bath...

 

http://www.gradwell.com/contact/

[Pete]

the originating ip address is from the uk

 

193.111.201.42 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - GRADWELL CORE HOSTING NETWORK IN TELEHOUSE TFM 40 LONDON

I think you'll find that the receiving server that Chris's email goes to. His ADSL is with Zen who peer with Gradwell.

I didn't realise that before, we resell Gradwells VoIP solutions, they're rather good.

[osso]

Well it seems all the other ip addresses are american originating mostly from California...

 

end of the day he said pickup from monday, you might as well get his landline phone number and speak to him and take it from there.

[Pete]

I think that's the problem Chris has supplied his number to him, but he's not calling?

I know I would call a buyer if they request it.

[marbleapple]

Has he asked for any money yet? seems rather odd to sell something and then not chase the money.

 

I also noticed on his eBay listing that he has a paypal account. If you clicked to pay (but didn't complete) it would tell you how many transactions he had done via paypal. it would be interesting to know if he has done 0 or many.

 

Have you tried requesting his contact details through the eBay system> he either has to provide a telephone number or a credit card. 50/50 its a telephone number

[Chris Wilson]

Gradwell is my hosting ISP. How do I request his contacts through the Ebay system? CJ: I know you are right, just want to know the facts, IYSWIM? Thanks, the worlds full of scammers

[Pete]

Ebay will just tell you to email him. I expect there would be privacy issues if they handed out other information about people.

[CJ]

G...CJ: I know you are right, just want to know the facts, IYSWIM? Thanks, the worlds full of scammers

 

I can understand you wanting to kn ow more Chris but I gave up chasing scammers a long time ago. After getting caught several times, I am now very selective in what I buy and who I buy off.

 

That's a sad indictment of today's culture eh?

[colsoop]

Alarm bells would start ringing for me the second a yahoo account was involved, they are almost always used by scammers

[ivan]

Gradwell is my hosting ISP. How do I request his contacts through the Ebay system? CJ: I know you are right, just want to know the facts, IYSWIM? Thanks, the worlds full of scammers

 

Ebay will just tell you to email him. I expect there would be privacy issues if they handed out other information about people.

If you're involved in a transaction with someone on Ebay you can ask Ebay for their contact details when you click on their profile. Ebay will then forward you their name, address and phone number.

 

At least, they did when I last did it.

[Pete]

I'm in shock

[CJ]

If you're involved in a transaction with someone on Ebay you can ask Ebay for their contact details when you click on their profile. Ebay will then forward you their name, address and phone number.

 

At least, they did when I last did it.

 

Bloody hell. That's pretty piss poor data protection eh?

[marbleapple]

Bloody hell. That's pretty piss poor data protection eh?

 

Nothing to do with Data protection. when you bid you are agreeing to a contract and thus your details are made available to the other contracting party.

 

Here is the link.

 

http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofindtype=10

 

Just type his user name in. if I remember correctly they will want the item number you have been dealing with. be warned though, when you ask for his info, he will automatically get yours.