Toys For Boys Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 For all those Mac Fans out there if you haven't rushed out and upgraded already then I would wait for a while. I upgraded my Mac Book Pro and it's been a pain in the arse ever since. If you have an Airport Extreme to connect to the web then it keeps losing the connection when the Mac goes to sleep, can't find the airport and generally makes access very difficult. Reinstalled all the software and the latest update and still no joy. Tried most of the blog solutions and will spend tomorrow downgrading to 10.4. Be warned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Sorry to hear this mate. I was never planning on upgrading to this as the extra features just don't interest me at all. Cheers for the heads up though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Works absolutely peachy for me. Had it running on my MacBook and a hackintosh no problem. Have you put the 10.5.1 update on? It's a fair bit faster and more responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys For Boys Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 Pete, have installed the update and still no joy - works fine on the G5 iMac desktop but the Mac Book Pro is a real problem. Looking at the Mac forums seems to be a common issue so guess Apple will launch a patch soon. Use the laptop a lot for work so it's a pain - only fix seems to be to never put it to sleep or close the lid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 That's not much of a solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 did I read right that Leopard stops the bootcamp stuff working so you cant blow a machine back to Windows XP? JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Bootcamp has been upgraded in the Leopard release and is still there. They've also made some improvements for compatibility with VMWare or running Winblows, so they're not discouraging this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 What about the security issues mentioned in this Guardian article? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/nov/08/news.apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 In some ways yes, in others no. The latest big cat flavour of OS X unleashed last month was quickly poked and prodded by security experts keen to explore any weakness they could find (since the heaadline "weakness in OSX!" is a surefire reader magnet). Unsurprisingly, people like to give a good kicking to the current big thing. They found lots: first, the firewall is turned off by default (as it has been on previous versions), and when turned on will still allow all connections - about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. That is a bit odd...but then most people are running routers with inbuilt firewalls any aren't they? I've not used a firewall on my OS since modem dialups. Next, notes Heise Security, it doesn't distinguish between trusted networks and potentially dodgy ones - unlike (gasp!) Windows Vista (tinyurl.com/39bjq5). Fair point Then, you can only deny connections by application, not by service or by port - which you could in Tiger and which you really ought to be able to do. That's odd to remove a feature isn't it? It's basically firewall settings again. Nor can you block outbound services - and it's those that are usually a problem with exploits. The review identifies other issues to do with Apple not using the most up-to-date versions of various protocols. The gist is clear: security wonks aren't happy. It does ask you when ever an application is going to run for the first time if you're happy for it to run though. Next is the new Back To My Mac service, which lets .Mac subscribers access their Macs via .Mac from any other machine running Leopard. One click connects directly to it, without any other password. So someone who gets your .Mac account login gets your machine too, for free. "Do not go back to my Mac," warn the Open Door team (tinyurl.com/yo39gk). Same as Remote Desktop then. If someone gets your U/P then they're into your PC. I never allow remote control services like this open to the world, they need allowing to fixed IPs only really. At the end of the day people are always going to try and pi$$ on Apples parade. No OS is infallible and there is always going to be a balance between usability and security. For instance, Vistas security features are always flashing stuff on screen. Most users just get used to clicking on "allow" they don't even bother to read them after a while and allow anything. I don't expect it'll be long before these things are addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Leopard looks very geared to the home user rather than graphics / studio work. The time machine worries me (I don't like auto saves going on when I'm not in control) and that stack dock looks messy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys For Boys Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 UPDATE - Have rebuilt the entire network, reset all the airports and started from scratch - seems 'touch wood' that it may have solved the issue. I'm impressed with Time Machine as a 'lazy man's' alternative to remembering to back up. Stacks is messy but you can choose to view as a grid which is easier on the eye and saves filling up the desktop. Without doubt the coolest part is 'cover flow' search of documents and files. Well heres hoping that there are no more issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Stacks may look messy, but it's so useful once you start using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Just updated to OSX Leopard today, it seems very smooth and quick, so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys For Boys Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Yep, mine seems fine now I rebuilt the network. Think there was a software conflict between the new OS and the old Airport settings. Anyway all seems well now and running smoothly. Any favourite bits Nic? Have you put iLife 08 on as well - the iPhoto is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 ordered my copy today along with adobe creative suite CS3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 ordered my copy today along with adobe creative suite CS3 Sadly that isn't so hot and doesn't play well with Leopard at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 please say your jokin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 please say your jokin! I'm afraid I'm not mate. Do a search in Google for Leopard and CS3. It's ok once it's going apparently, but they do really need a patch which is due very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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