Guest ninelives Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 hi all just got new n/a supra what sort of improvements on power can be made that actually do make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 hi all just got new n/a supra what sort of improvements on power can be made that actually do make a difference Before you get flamed for not searching, the answer is that only minimal gains can be made. Second de-cat, fancy manifold are the best! Keep the stock air box too!! H. Oh and Welcome B.T.W!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Before someone else says it - If the N/A doesn't have enough power for you, you probably should of bought a TT instead!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman.chris Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 A friend of mine once said " why not buy a n/a until you get used to the power then buy a turbo? " Once he picked himself off the floor, he slapped his own face for what he had just said! Every man to his own i guess but i'd always be thinking ' i should have just baught a turbo and i think my automatic gearbox has just gone?! :S ' Sorry dude/s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Don't forget that if you swap round the wide flanging solenoids you can gain an extra 40BHP for very little cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsupraman82 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 if you are looking towards the future then everyone is right. there is not a lot you can really to with a N/A apart from N/A T. i looked at that route and unless you got a big wad of cash...its not worth it......get a TT or TT transplant of jezz. if this is your first powerful car then the N/A is a good choice. i drive a N/A and it took me a while to get used to it after driving a 1.6 civic!!! now im thinking of getting a TT. but i DO NOT regret getting an N/A at all .......Its like a TT with training wheels. hope this helps:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Have a read of this http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=127553 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jarl Ayari Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 WTF is a wide flanging solenoid? Don't forget that if you swap round the wide flanging solenoids you can gain an extra 40BHP for very little cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadburys Purple Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 In answer to the original question - If you are after big power increases then you will not find them with tuning an N/A BUT if you are simply trying to make it more responsive then it's the same route as any normally aspirated car, less restrictive panel filter or induction kit (but be carefull about location and heatsoak, mine is re-located in the inner wing!), exhaust, decat, tubular manifold, camshafts etc. These will release an extra few horses but nothing significant. Like I say, if all your after is increased response and just small gains then continue........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phillw454 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Simple answer you can't gt big power without spending stupid amounts. Its cheaper to buy a TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Or if you have got the look you want etc and money have been spent do a NA-TT conversion (dropping in a TT engine). That will set you back a reasonable £3k fully fitted:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Don't forget that if you swap round the wide flanging solenoids you can gain an extra 40BHP for very little cost. Is this a piss take? Oh and if you empty your ash tray you can get another 30Bhp.... Also fill your tyres with water......another 15Bhp. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wynter919 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 theres a company in america ive been in touch with (will dig out the name) they've done a couple of N/a project builds and there able to squese and extra 30-40 bhp with not to much done and not too much expence either (ie no machine work).think 1 of there n/as is running 275 and the other 267 or sumthing (dyno'd as well,not jst flim flam)...but after that your looking at heavy machine work ie. skiming porting and heavy cams etc (all of witch are not cheap and would prob be about the same as a Turbo conversion anyway), at least that what my reaserch has proven. to be fair an extra 30-40 bhp is more than gonna make a differance..hell it will make a huge differance but only do it if you looking for a bit more poke and arnt too fused about it...if you want a beast of a supra a Turbos is the only way! p.s i personally would only do a few basic things and wait till i want a turbo or get a v8 in it (waits to hear the abuse of turbo fans) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Oh and if you empty your ash tray you can get another 30Bhp.... Also fill your tyres with water......another 15Bhp. H. Wow is that true? Don't forget the electric supercharger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wynter919 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Wow is that true? Don't forget the electric supercharger. i saw a test of 1 of those on a car in max power/fast car sumthing like taht and it came in with 15 od bhp less...they restrict air flow....youd have to be a bell end to use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 The v8 conversion is a bit pathetic if you ask me. I had an NA now i have a TT, i took it out the other day. still a very quick car. and was great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wynter919 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 The v8 conversion is a bit pathetic if you ask me. I had an NA now i have a TT, i took it out the other day. still a very quick car. and was great fun. why do you say that...has anyone done it??...personallly would love to see the look on sumones face when you roll up next to them on the strip and thier expecting to hear some turbo whine and a dump valve and hear a V8 roar instead....but thats just me im a big V8 fan so im not expecting many on hear to agree with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I can't beleive no-one's said to put the back seat down. That has to be one of the all-time favourites cos we all know it'll improve acceleration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I can't beleive no-one's said to put the back seat down. That has to be one of the all-time favourites cos we all know it'll improve acceleration. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 why do you say that...has anyone done it??...personallly would love to see the look on sumones face when you roll up next to them on the strip and thier expecting to hear some turbo whine and a dump valve and hear a V8 roar instead....but thats just me im a big V8 fan so im not expecting many on hear to agree with me thor racing did a v8 conversion using a 1uz-fe (v8 soarer engine) http://www.thor-racing.co.uk/THORThunder-191.asp apparently its lighter and shorter so the c of g is improved and it develops about 260 bhp iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Don't forget that if you swap round the wide flanging solenoids you can gain an extra 40BHP for very little cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaRkYbOy72 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Out of interest, what would an induction kit do to an N/A car (does it affect the revs/idling speed?). Would the car definitely feel more responsive? Why do people recommend keeping the stock filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 because its better. toyota will have spent a lot of time developing it. it ducts cold air in from the front of the car and its fully incloses. an aftermarket one just suks in hot air from the engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaRkYbOy72 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok thanks, but would there be any differences if i put in a TRD panel filter inside the stock air box on an N/A please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 would asume so as it would be a better filter than stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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