TLicense Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 In the US. Just heard on the news that it's just gone above $3 a gallon for the first time ever. I mean how will they ever cope. I paid 109.9p a liter on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 omg 81 cents or 40p a L. how will they live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Poor mites. It's 8p a litre in Saudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 So, to fill the supra with 60L in US costs ~£22 and here it is ~£65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStormRising Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 So, to fill the supra with 60L in US costs ~£22 and here it is ~£65 Nuts isn't it we all sit there and do nothing I say reduce the tax because if I put in £40 a week or £2080 a year that's about £1248 (60%) going to the government 50 million cars say average of £1000 a year for each car that's £50,000,000,000 a year in tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 50 million cars? Surely not. I'd be suprised if it was half that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy bebop Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 You guys don't understand the whole story. The real crux is that since after WWII, families were encourged and enticed to live 45min- 2 hours away from work because gas was plentiful and cheap, and the suburbs were popping up like cloudy weather in the English countryside. America is vast, and space is one thing we have a lot of. In that time from then to now, no real infrastructure for public commute was ever established. There's no real rail system to speak of, and bussing is a joke. Now fast forward 60 years. Most families still live 45 minutes-2 hours away from work, so the daily commute is insane to say the least when gas costs are figured into the equation. We're in a very big part paying for the short sightedness of our grandfathers so yes while $3.00 a gallon is far less than what the UK pays, when averaged out the cost is nearly and [dare I say it] in some cases more. There's a lot more that goes into it than the cost at the pump, my friends. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 So why do the US public buy 8 litre 4x4s just to pop to the shops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStormRising Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 50 million cars? Surely not. I'd be suprised if it was half that many. Maybe a teensy bit of an exageration I think it is around the 26mil mark though... So you'd be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy bebop Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 So why do the US public buy 8 litre 4x4s just to pop to the shops? That's a question I've been asking myself for a while now. My work truck is a Nissan Pickup that gets a clocked 27mpg. I'm curious whether a 240sx (Silvia) rear end will fit the truck to make it high geared, that'll get mpg into the 32mpg range . The onyl gas guzzler I want to own is the Supra. C16 24/7 anyways. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 If it's £1 per ltr then 50.35p is Duty and 17.5p in VAT so, it's only 32.15 per ltr really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 It's only been in recent years that fuel economy has been an issue with US drivers, and it'll probably be more so now. There has been no pressure on car manufacturers to decrease engine size, as gas has been so cheap. Add the 'bigger is better' philosophy that pervades US consumer culture and there's good enough reason for big, thirsty engines these past 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 popping up like cloudy weather in the English countryside. I like that phrase. It's not restricted to the country side though. no real infrastructure for public commute was ever established. Telford is like that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx1lew Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 You guys don't understand the whole story. The real crux is that since after WWII, families were encourged and enticed to live 45min- 2 hours away from work because gas was plentiful and cheap, and the suburbs were popping up like cloudy weather in the English countryside. America is vast, and space is one thing we have a lot of. In that time from then to now, no real infrastructure for public commute was ever established. There's no real rail system to speak of, and bussing is a joke. Now fast forward 60 years. Most families still live 45 minutes-2 hours away from work, so the daily commute is insane to say the least when gas costs are figured into the equation. We're in a very big part paying for the short sightedness of our grandfathers so yes while $3.00 a gallon is far less than what the UK pays, when averaged out the cost is nearly and [dare I say it] in some cases more. There's a lot more that goes into it than the cost at the pump, my friends. Eric public transport is no worse or better then uk, depends where you live, i would imadgine if it was a hick town there would be no public transport, if you live in the city's there is plenty tubes, coaches and taxi's. we travel just as much as you guys do i know people who travel 2 hours a day, saying that every one in america has to travel to work is bull, its no different then the uk, just because we are a smaller island does not mean we walk out our doors and work is on our step, allot of us drive deisels and 1ltr's when i've been to the states i dont think i seen any thing less then a 2ltr most car's there are large v8's ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 You guys don't understand the whole story....... I see your point, but there are plenty of peple who live a similar distance from work here in the UK. Where the US has a lot of space, we here (particularly in the south) have a lot of people in a very small space - and it's getting busier and busier. Our rail system can't cope with the rush hour commute (honestly, some bright spark suggested a congestion charge on the trains to stop people from going to work at 9am - genius). The trains are expensive too (used to pay about £25 a day to get the 50 miles to work and back), and the buses are next to useless for travelling anything other than short distances. So in short, the roads can't cope with the traffic, and the public transport can't cope with the extra demand that the government wants to put on it by getting people off the roads. Seems that both our governments (new and old) are too short sighted to actually deal with the fact that the world's getting smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy bebop Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I say we just go hydrogen, I'm done with this middle eastern oil crisis horsesh*t. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamelessTT Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Americans use piss low octane fuel dont they?. I wouldnt be happy paying for that shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Americans use piss low octane fuel dont they?. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 public transport is no worse or better then uk, depends where you live, i would imadgine if it was a hick town there would be no public err not so .. I lived and worked in the Dallas / fort Worth area. there is no publis transport to speak off at all. No tube, no buses, rare to see cab's just big pickups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Maybe a teensy bit of an exageration I think it is around the 26mil mark though... So you'd be right 'Fuel duty raised £23.3 Billion for the treasury in 2004-5' (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocarbon_oil_duty) So, yeah, 26 Bil or more for this year sounds about right. I can understand the Americans moaning about increases though - in terms of percentage their at-the-pump price is rising faster than ours. If the base price goes up 10%, they pay 10% extra, but we only (lol) pay about 5% more because the duty is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Lets demonstrate and drive down a motorway really slowly just like the lorry drivers did a few years ago. Not only would it be achieveing some sort of political goal but it would look great and we can all go to the pub after!! (or we could just forget the first part and just go to the pub) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy bebop Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Americans use piss low octane fuel dont they?. I wouldnt be happy paying for that shit Hell no. We get 93 octane at the pump normally, 94 at certain Sonoco stations, and 100 octane unleaded / 110 octane leaded race gas at certain Citgo's. Plus 112, 114, 116, 118, and 120 octane is only ten minutes away if you bring your own jug. I love Florida. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 It was nice to see a filling station (at the 1/4 ml strip) with high grade fuel when I stopped by Moroso speedway in West Palm Beach a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 It was nice to see a filling station (at the 1/4 ml strip) with high grade fuel when I stopped by Moroso speedway in West Palm Beach a few years ago I loved West Palm Beach. Going back next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yeah lets make fun of the Americans because they are whining about the cost of fuel. At least they do not have to pay around 70% in taxes. If people over here would stand up for themselves insted of getting ass raped by the GOV then we would not be in this situation of paying the GOV to run our cars. God save the Queen, she needs our money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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