wynter919 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 No deniying a TT is very fast but then The N/A will beat almost all sports cars untill you hit The M3/Porche region. sumone earlyer said that there are sum new hot hatches around that will give the N/A a run for its money. me thinks not ..suposedly things like a Focus ST or civic Type R and Golf gti(new one),even bmw 330ci's or Focus RS will happily keep up...but then i speak form experiance and can tell you they cant! For sure when you have been in a TT i guess a N/a may seem tame but there just not slow by anyones standards. for me it was just a question of if i wanted a car that is faster than 99% of cars i meet(N/A) or 99.9% (TT) I think if you can afford a TT then feck it you only live once, but dont stretch to get a lame TT....a very well looked after N/A is gona be better than a dog of a TT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 No deniying a TT is very fast but then The N/A will beat almost all sports cars untill you hit The M3/Porche region. sumone earlyer said that there are sum new hot hatches around that will give the N/A a run for its money. me thinks not ..suposedly things like a Focus ST or civic Type R and Golf gti(new one),even bmw 330ci's or Focus RS will happily keep up...but then i speak form experiance and can tell you they cant! For sure when you have been in a TT i guess a N/a may seem tame but there just not slow by anyones standards. for me it was just a question of if i wanted a car that is faster than 99% of cars i meet(N/A) or 99.9% (TT) I think if you can afford a TT then feck it you only live once, but dont stretch to get a lame TT....a very well looked after N/A is gona be better than a dog of a TT!! I don't agree. I'm sure my mates fiat coupe was quicker than my NA. I'm pretty sure a Civic type R would be comparable, and I suspect my friends Celica would also be similar. There are a lot of cars out there with similar performance to my NA. And even if there wasn't - if a potential buyer really wants the power, then an NA is never going to be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wynter919 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I don't agree. I'm sure my mates fiat coupe was quicker than my NA. I'm pretty sure a Civic type R would be comparable, and I suspect my friends Celica would also be similar. QUOTE] well all i'll say is that on picking up the car i had a focus st and two BMW 330ci's try it on and had no problems leaving them. and just the other night i had a prat in a civic type-r try it on down a long stretch on dual lane and fair due's he keept up till 3rd but then i began to comfotably pull away i can only speak from experiance as wat things do on paper does not always ring true. there are plenty of cars to out run a N/A of corse..point im making is if you want a fast car to play with things like 330's and RS's and Type-rs then get a N/A...if you want a very fast car to play with m3's and porches then get A TT. both are dam quick and fun sports cars at the end of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I would argue that a STOCK TT is as near as damn it as reliable as a NA. Trouble is BPU is viewed as a mod with no downsides. This is not IMO true. What it is is a mod with no 'immediate' downsides. The car will happily take the extra boost power for a certain amount of time, but it will be worn out faster and especially so if you start to factor in possible patchy history. The reason at this point in time a NA is a less chancy buy is IMO because you know it will not have been modded over its stock power as there is nothing anyone can have done to it. The fact it has no turbo's to super heat the engine oil means that IMO extended oil change periods will have a less dramatic effect on the life of the engine. If i were looking for a supra now with a tight'ish budget i would either choose a NA and be aware of what i will 'lose' in depreciation in a year when i may fancy a TT, or i would seek out as stock a tt (and try and ensure it was one that had always been stock) as i could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 No deniying a TT is very fast but then The N/A will beat almost all sports cars untill you hit The M3/Porche region. sumone earlyer said that there are sum new hot hatches around that will give the N/A a run for its money. me thinks not ..suposedly things like a Focus ST or civic Type R and Golf gti(new one),even bmw 330ci's or Focus RS will happily keep up...but then i speak form experiance and can tell you they cant! For sure when you have been in a TT i guess a N/a may seem tame but there just not slow by anyones standards. for me it was just a question of if i wanted a car that is faster than 99% of cars i meet(N/A) or 99.9% (TT) I think if you can afford a TT then feck it you only live once, but dont stretch to get a lame TT....a very well looked after N/A is gona be better than a dog of a TT!! Im not sure that the people in the other cars you were racing trying when you got to 3rd gear. I also have an N/A and its about as quick as all of those but theres not much in it. What you have to remember is that by the time you get to third gear you are at almost 70mph if you`ve revved it to the limit in 2nd. Depending on the road you are driving on, this is starting to get into licence losing territory and a lot of people shut off at that speed. I think that those people started to shut off as they got above 70 and towards 100, when your licence is sure to be lost (if caught) On paper they are all very similar (including the N/A) especially when power to weight etc is taken into account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wynter919 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Im not sure that the people in the other cars you were racing trying when you got to 3rd gear. I also have an N/A and its about as quick as all of those but theres not much in it. What you have to remember is that by the time you get to third gear you are at almost 70mph if you`ve revved it to the limit in 2nd. Depending on the road you are driving on, this is starting to get into licence losing territory and a lot of people shut off at that speed. I think that those people started to shut off as they got above 70 and towards 100, when your licence is sure to be lost (if caught) On paper they are all very similar (including the N/A) especially when power to weight etc is taken into account for sure theres not much in it,there all in the same region..but inch or a mile, its quicker.(p.s i slowed down in 4th and he keept on going to complete his loser fly-bye) dont want to get into a argument bout it. just saying its still a quick fun car and no need to think your not gonna get a quick car if you dont have a TT. just trying to put it in perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tichkent Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Good advice on this thread. I got my first NA last year, and while I loved it over summer (it's an Aerotop, nothing beats cruising around in a Supe with the roof off!) I have found it a little disappointing on the odd occassion I do try and keep up with a hot hatch. I keep up, but there's not much in it, and if it's been modded in any way it'll beat ya! It's especially sluggish from a standstill (however 30 to 70 is fantastically quick - 2nd gear all the way!). I'd be tempted to wait for a decent TT and be very calm with the right foot for a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I have an NA and a BPU TT at as near as makes no difference 400bhp. the TT is fun. But i took the NA down the shops last night. It is cirtainly NOT a slow car. And to be honest the only difference i could notice was that the TT is SO much quicker accelerating from about 50-60 mph upwards. But maybe it is because im changing gear in my NA and my TT is auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I have this problem at the moment too . I've come from a celica GT and want something faster but i'm a bit apprehensive about going straight to a TT rwd car ... sorry to ask but does someone have the performance figures for each to hand ? (0-60 and top end) thanks guys . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrisbirch Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 thanks for all the advice... I suppose I should ask myself 'do I need the extra power of the TT ? as it seems everywhere I drive, there's plod parked up with speed guns... it would be a case of learning how to drive it with respect and being sensible. I normally accelerate hard up to 60-70 and so if this is where the TT really gets going I could be getting into trouble...I'll give it some thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 acceleration hard from 30-40 to 70. is very very small if your flooring it. and its 120 before you realise your having fun. if your not after big bhp. i think your best choice would be an NA. Get a manual and enjoy the geerchanges or an aero for a bit of top off fun ps. check my sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 ps. check my sig shameless Plug:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I had an NA for three years before upgrading to the TT. I feel it was the correct thing to do as my first rear wheel drive car ownership. I didn't spend (therefore lose money) on many modifications as it was always the plan to upgrade some time. However, having said that I believe my TT is safer as it has ABS, bigger breaks and traction control - where as my NA didn't. As for if you need the extra power, none of us do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 thanks for all the advice... I suppose I should ask myself 'do I need the extra power of the TT ? as it seems everywhere I drive, there's plod parked up with speed guns... it would be a case of learning how to drive it with respect and being sensible. I normally accelerate hard up to 60-70 and so if this is where the TT really gets going I could be getting into trouble...I'll give it some thought you gotta drive both fella - or at least go out in both. (by the way...you should feel priviledged to have got soooo many replies...usually when someone asks that question they get 1 response saying "search!"!! Good work dude!! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoFuture Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Least you dont have to lock an NA away if the road is slightly moist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 up until May my car was used daily i did over 40000 miles in rain sleet and snow and it never missed a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoFuture Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 ive never understood why people have to lock there cars up for winter, i mean it only goes as fast as ya foot anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 chris if you fancy a trip up to mine i can take you out in both of my cars. a stock bhp NA manual (for sale ), and my 386bhp TT Auto and you can compare and contrast. My NA has just abot everything done to the brakes to improve them without changing them all together. (lines upgraded, pads, fluid... etc) and although they dont stop me as well as my groved UK disks, there far from rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB B Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Chris. Lots of posts on this thread of yours so I thought I would add my two penneth. Had a lovely silver 96 6 speed N/A for 4 years, great car but I ALWAYS had this voice in the back of my head saying shoulda gotta TT. Well I did this year, now most of the voices in my head have now gone to be replaced by others like "wow that felt good" as the dribble runs from the side of my mouth. Anyway back to the subject, GET A TT. Price wise, more to buy and mine costs me about £60 a month all in more than the N/A, there is a big differance in speed, mine is a UK part BPU auto and goes from standstill to any speed very quickl. In the N/A you will be pestered by all the above mentioned cars but not in a good TT. Best of luck (get a TT ). Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepool Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hi Chris I was asking myself the same question 2 yrs ago and like you I wanted a Supra for many a year. I joined this club 18 months before I got my 'dream car' and got plenty of sound advide from the great bunch on here before I actually bought one. I went out in a few n/a's, drove a few and came very close to buying one because, like some have said here, if you've only driven escort's and fiesta's it may be wise to get a n/a and then upgrade to a TT later. But then I went out in a TT and after the first few seconds my mind was made up Maybe not just cos of the acceleration, but the awesome sound as well. So I bought one. Up to May this year the fastest car I'd driven was a Rover 620 Turbo Diesel! I knew it would take some time to get used to the power so I took it easy for a while (not too long tho!) All in all Im glad a got a TT because I know if that if I didn't, I would't be getting what I wanted. You haven't got to drive it like a twoz, sometimes you just poodle round grinning, knowing that you're faster than nearly all the others Definitely take your time buying one, definitely buy one thats been looked after (from a member here's a good place) and definitely. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BUY A TT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 you guys are not helping me sell my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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