dangerous brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 hybrids here too, 450-460 region... Still less than mine the day we ran head to head on Thors dyno chap OK only by 1 hp but still winnings winning You've done some more stuff in the 3 years since though I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Still less than mine the day we ran head to head on Thors dyno chap OK only by 1 hp but still winnings winning You've done some more stuff in the 3 years since though I guess. On Thor's dyno? Their figures are a joke! and you know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 On Thor's dyno? Their figures are a joke! and you know it Their figures may be a tad on the high side but when the next car put straight on after mine on any dyno puts a lower number out especially a hub dyno that doesn't have tyre pressures, traction etc to affect the readings then that car has less power Thats my story and I am sticking to it In fact the following two cars that went on the dyno that day had hybrids and my power was higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Their figures may be a tad on the high side but when the next car put straight on after mine on any dyno puts a lower number out especially a hub dyno that doesn't have tyre pressures, traction etc to affect the readings then that car has less power Thats my story and I am sticking to it In fact the following two cars that went on the dyno that day had hybrids and my power was higher. what did you get on THORs dyno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Given the turbos can only flow so much air, then having massive octane fuel can get a higher figure, it unrealistic though makes an interesting dyno sheet. Trying for 550 on stock twins, you'd need to try letting the turbos run at full boost (approx 22psi) with the highest octance fuel you could get. I think a guy on Supraforums has done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 what did you get on THORs dyno? The print out on Thors dyno said 395 bhp I think with 374 torques but I don't remember that bit. I believe on the same day the hy-brids put down Heckler 394 and another guy 380 something. Wayne aka supra dibbs did his that day as well and his hybrids didn't put out the oomph he was expecting. Chief chap I don't think anyone is suggesting that stock twins could be capable of over 500 horses. I think whats being asked is can hybrids do the job. From what I have seen of them they don't seem to me to be worth the premium being payed for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The print out on Thors dyno said 395 bhp I think with 374 torques but I don't remember that bit. I believe on the same day the hy-brids put down Heckler 394 and another guy 380 something. Wayne aka supra dibbs did his that day as well and his hybrids didn't put out the oomph he was expecting. Chief chap I don't think anyone is suggesting that stock twins could be capable of over 500 horses. I think whats being asked is can hybrids do the job. From what I have seen of them they don't seem to me to be worth the premium being payed for them. guessing hub hp... my dyno sheet from THOR was 407bhp @ 1.2bar and the car ow runs 1.4 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Thats seems to me to be the only advantage of hybrids. Stockers wouldn't last very long at 1.4 bar And yes hub hp but I personally think that figure is actually the calculated fly HP with a 20% loss incorporated for an auto box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Thats seems to me to be the only advantage of hybrids. Stockers wouldn't last very long at 1.4 bar And yes hub hp but I personally think that figure is actually the calculated fly HP with a 20% loss incorporated for an auto box. I like the hybrids... 1.4bar has quite a kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Speaking of stock twins, the UKSpec ones can be pushed rather hard if done right. Not sure about ceramics though, haven't experimented with those. Wouldn't bother with hybrids, all the weight and complexity, if you have to forgo the sequential, why not go single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wrapman Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444569&highlight=hybrid Here is some interesting reading for you guys. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I had Hybrid set up before i went single: Hybrid Turbos Greddy 3 Row front mounted Intercooler 550'cc injectors Greddy Emanage Blue Walbro Fuel Pumps Double De-cat pipes Greddy Pully Kit It was mapped to 451bhp... In reality when i pulling with a BPU supra that was putting out around 410bhp we were neck and neck, i couldn't move away from him. I was in no doubt that the mapping was bull. I reckon the 450 mark is attainable but nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Old thread dug up to tell us something thats been posted many, many times.... Matt, that thread is talking about "real" hybrid's, not remanufactured stock turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Matt, that thread is talking about "real" hybrid's, not remanufactured stock turbos So what's the definition of hybrid turbos? I think there is a cloud around what a hybrid is and needs ironing out. I had stock turbos rebuilt with hybrid internals?! surely that's a hybrid turbo. What are you refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 So what's the definition of hybrid turbos? I think there is a cloud around what a hybrid is and needs ironing out. I had stock turbos rebuilt with hybrid internals?! surely that's a hybrid turbo. What are you refering to? It's just a loose term to say that the internals have been changed. However the one on that old thread on supraforums is a world apart from the sort of hybrid that companies like envy sell, it uses a GT28 turbo. I'd like to see someone try this in the UK, would be good to see if they live up to the 500 bhp hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It's just a loose term to say that the internals have been changed. However the one on that old thread on supraforums is a world apart from the sort of hybrid that companies like envy sell, it uses a GT28 turbo. I'd like to see someone try this in the UK, would be good to see if they live up to the 500 bhp hype. That sounds much better. If i knew about that when i was having hybrids fitted then i would have definately tried that if it's practicable over here. From what i've gathered, the only thing Envy style hyrbids offer is the ability to up the boost higher than stock without the internals going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Is anybody running the KIT GT28 Hybrid , seems very expensive considering they want your Turbos in exchange too $3,100.00 https://www.speedforsale.com/supraparts/speed-sale-usdm-gt28-hybrid-stock-twin-turbo-upgrade-550rwhp-p-553.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Two years later, my view still is: if you want bang for your buck, the next step after a mildly boosted stock setup should be a single (properly mapped of course). I wouldn't bother with hybrids/rebuilds/stage n contraptions, anything unaccompanied by a compressor map is not worth much in my book. Certainly not worth the aggro of fiddling with the exhaust nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Blimey! long time no see john, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Blimey! long time no see john, Indeed. We do need people like JohnA to stick around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Blimey, it's JohnA. Nice to see you on here! :Waves hello: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Erm, this is a Supra TT right? It's just that your pic shows a skyline... with supra in place of the number plate Picture? cant see no picture me:search: Blitz Boost jumper, HKS Camp System What are these items?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) HKS CAMP You plug it into your ECU and it has an output for an A/V screen so you can visual display Throttle, injector cycle etc via HKS GUI (Graphical User interface) Basically a fancy GUI, for your in-car 3.5" screen to show off to your friends similar GUI to the New Skyline but no where near as nice Expensive gadget too Edited May 5, 2009 by Jellybean (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Picture? cant see no picture me:search: Anees' Aristo (now sold) is the only fit I've seen of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Blimey, it's JohnA. Nice to see you on here! :Waves hello: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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