Peter P Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 BOY racers have until next July to get rid of modified exhaust pipes on their cars. The measure is contained in a binding EU directive on noise pollution. The law, which comes into effect next year will ban the exhausts as part of a range of measures aimed at reducing noise emissions. But it is not yet clear how the Government will enforce the rule, or whether drivers could face fines for having enlarged exhaust pipes. Complaints There have been increasing complaints about the activities of boy racers in souped-up cars racing each other, even on main roads, under cover of darkness. The evidence is found in the "donut" circular rings left in the middle of the road. But it is the noise from their modified exhausts which has most annoyed so many drivers and householders who have to endure the terribly loud grating sound of roaring exhausts all day and night from these vehicles. Got this from a mate with an MR2 who just replaced his exhaust. Anyone familiar with this and how would it work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twijesiri Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 does any one know what the noise limit is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 probably BS.. ive seen these before never came to light. I think the law is under 100db.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twijesiri Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 May be true, but will belive it when it happens, still going to get my RS*R on in the near future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 102dB for the SVA AFAIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Think they should deal with noisy bikes first... they are far far worse!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 I can see their point on the Saxo VTR with a 5inch backbox that serves no function other than to make loads of noise and annoy everyone, but for a proper performance system on a performance car this seems wrong to me! I always assumed there was a limit which was applied by the Police at their discretion i.e a car thunders past and they can pull it and do a db level test which if it fails would lead to a notice to remove the system or they would seize the car. The fact is the stock system on a Supra is quite a large one anyway! Good way for the OE manufactiers to make a tonne of money if they ever did get it enforced! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 boy racers in souped-up cars racing each other. The evidence is found in the "donut" circular rings left in the middle of the road. Who TF leaves donut rings on the road when racing? That article reads like the typical rubbish from some nosy, NIMBY sodding killjoy who's written to his local MP after moving next to a busy road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/boisterous-boy-racers-have-volume-turned-way-down-by-new-law-1073149.html He's just e-mailed me to say the full article is on the above link and looks like this is just for Ireland at present. PHEW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 Just read it and to be fair it's no different to what some people do now in that you would refit and lower your setup for the MOT then put it back afterwards! Imagine the impact if it was accepted nationwide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 You only have to read this bit to understand the mentality of these people; "It would have a huge impact on the quality of life for householders and law-abiding, responsible drivers who are being intimidated on our country's roads," added the MEP. So what they're saying is, anyone with a modified exhaust on their car; > Isn't law abiding > Isn't a responsible driver > Intimidates other road users > Adversely affects other people's quality of life How come these morons can get away with such blatent prejudice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Just read it and to be fair it's no different to what some people do now in that you would refit and lower your setup for the MOT then put it back afterwards! Imagine the impact if it was accepted nationwide! Who fancys getting a quote for a genuine toyota exhaust? I htink the worst that would happen would be a firm noise level introduced, and possibly cars after a certain manufacture dat ewould be affected, a la road tax... Can but hope anyway. Bloody saxo drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Yeh the noise limit is 96 db maximum. Atm, mine is putting out around 107db without the baffle in! Having said that, i accidently set my neighbours car alarm off this morning! Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Worrying reading. Hopefully it will die a death as some 'may happen' policies often do. Monitoring and enforcing it would be an issue especially as its so prevalent. Sometimes I think I live in the chav capital of England it would mean increasing the police numbers at least 10 fold to make even the slightest impression on the loclal spotty oiks. Fingers crossed, eh? L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 probably BS.. ive seen these before never came to light. I think the law is under 100db.. Correct, it's 74db according to the link below http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/environment/cvtf/theenvironmentalimpactsofroa3793?page=5#1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Cars? WTF? The noise comes from 17yr olds who remove the mufflers from their MoPeds. They go back and to up small built-up roads. Just like in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 so if they ban modified exhaust you'll just here lots of induction roar instead. What about cars like Ultima? They'd have no hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadburys Purple Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Last year my girfriend and I were going for a meal at a table that was booked when a police car pulled us over for having an aftermarket exhaust (small 2.5inch magnex back box) and after being told to follow them to the local station they tested the db level and it came to 97.2. They told me the limit was 96db, gave me a prohibition and told me I couldn't move my car from their car park. Not only did we miss our meal but we had to get a taxi home. Needless to say, I wasn't impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Last year my girfriend and I were going for a meal at a table that was booked when a police car pulled us over for having an aftermarket exhaust (small 2.5inch magnex back box) and after being told to follow them to the local station they tested the db level and it came to 97.2. They told me the limit was 96db, gave me a prohibition and told me I couldn't move my car from their car park. Not only did we miss our meal but we had to get a taxi home. Needless to say, I wasn't impressed. I'd be screwed with my Sup'. God knows how loud it is. I'd love to confuse them with a quietish exhaust but have a single turbo, external wastegate with open dump tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I presume the noise level has to be checked at a certain RPM, such as 4,000rpm like they do at trackdays ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Commission Directive 2007/34/EC of 14 June 2007 amending, for the purposes of its adaptation to technical progress, Council Directive 70/157/EEC concerning the permissible sound level and the exhaust system of motor vehicles (Text with EEA relevance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I presume the noise level has to be checked at a certain RPM, such as 4,000rpm like they do at trackdays ? I'd assume so but that wont make an affect on the wastegate at standstill would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Well thats just buggered the TVR club then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I got fed up with all the "boy racers" going up and down the local dual carrigway. So i went and brought me a supra to show them how its done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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