Big Ads Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Is your dad on the picket line or in bed, like most of the postal workers "striking"? Sorry if that sounded like a pop at your Dad. Didn't mean to come across like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 i have just posted a warning about posting stuff in another thread my brief take on the problems: Royal main letters are going through the same process that we (parcelforce) did 4 years ago ie modernising and streamlining to make it a viable company which is what needs to be done and needs to be done yesterday!! the problem, unions, they dont like it as its going to mean job losses both on the ground and at the top so they want more money!! but in todays market where RM are losing silly amounts of money they simply dont have any to give out which makes sense but unions being unions wont accept this The sooner they realise that its a competetive market there now in and need to change for the better the the sooner they may actually make some money!! Doesnt make sense to me so it now means that i have to work till 2am for the next few days helping run the national hub!! Wifes dead happy LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Well, according to our Royal Mail post lady, she says these strikes may not happen, as she's been told to keep an eye out on the news, because a deal may well be struck very soon. Hopefully then, I will get my birthday cards at the weekend EDIT: Crap grammar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Well, according to our Royal Mail post lady, she says these strikes may not happen, as she's been told to keep an eye out on the news, because a deal will maybe be struck very soon. Hopefully then, I will get my birthday cards at the weekend trust me there already happening, ive spent the last few hours arranging for collections for some of my remote customers who i use royal mail to do my collections for, plus theres about 150 managers going to the main hub tonight to run it which will cost a fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 But the main reason is they are trying to make the postal workers deliver more mail for no extra money. No disrespect to your family but that's life Every job I've been in always end up having cut backs with the remaining staff having to pick up the slack either that or having more work dumped on you than ever before, you complain but soon get used to it. If you have issue with your job, wages are crap or what ever, then look for another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It was reported on the news this morning that there are a number of 1 day strikes planned after this strike. This could affect the general election if called as no doubt the postal vote wouldnt work as its ment to. They also said for this reason the unions could gain a lot of power in this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missile Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sorry if that sounded like a pop at your Dad. Didn't mean to come across like that. No prob's buddy. But yes he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 More power to them. At least they aren't so lily-livered as to believe that talking will do them any favours. We need more strikes, more protests and more riots too, if needs be otherwise the powers that be will get their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 On the flip side, all public sector workers have been offered abysmal pay rises this year at a rate below inflation (although Royal Mail is now a private enterprise) and I wouldn't be suprised to see more direct action from Public Sector service employees these coming months. What, you mean like traffic cops on strike? That'd be OK (if it wasn't for Gatsos I suppose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eve Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 That's what I would think too, you know what the job is and how much it pays when you take it on, if you want more money get another bloody job. Exactly. Greedy b*st*rds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 More power to them. At least they aren't so lily-livered as to believe that talking will do them any favours. We need more strikes, more protests and more riots too, if needs be otherwise the powers that be will get their way. Yay go for it, more overtime for me. What, you mean like traffic cops on strike? That'd be OK (if it wasn't for Gatsos I suppose). The Police Federation have mooted and made noises about striking. At the moment we don't have a right to strike, but as the Govt have withdrawn their agreement for the pay formula that we have been bound to which included our agreement about striking, the federation are seriously considering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 the federation are seriously considering it. That would be a good day. Please be sure to give me warning so I can go out and tool up with home made weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Damn it, bought something off ebay yesterday, gonna be a long wait for something i needed sharpish 20% of their business is already handled by private companies.... let the other 80% go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yay go for it, more overtime for me. The Police Federation have mooted and made noises about striking. At the moment we don't have a right to strike, but as the Govt have withdrawn their agreement for the pay formula that we have been bound to which included our agreement about striking, the federation are seriously considering it. Same as us, Nurses so full of soft shites that they will not strike, soon as a couple of patients suffer they would soon change their minds!, does not stop fireman leaving us all to burn etc when they strike. Postmen may have a reasonable point, but Royal Mail will lose so much business that they will end up with no jobs, country has gone to pot:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Royal Mail are a company going down the tube..... if the management don't take serious action then those workers won't have a job at all. IMO public sector workers who strike should try working for a proper organisation for a while and see what it's like there. There's still too much of a 'job for life' attitude. I know that the royal mail are a private company now, but IMO if those workers were there back in the 'good old days' then that's how they'll be thinking now. And that's from a public sector worker before anyone flames me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4RK RZ Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 No wonder ther Royal Mail is suffering with the poor poor poor services they offer. You get a parcel thro the post and they expect you to be in (day ) to get it! They dont think anyone works for a living 8-5 pm ! So posting anything is a nightmare .............cos your working Delivery to your house is a nightmare .............cos your working Then there is the WHOLE matter of picking up your parcel from the dam office 2 miles down the road (This only opens Mon to Fri 8:45am till 11am for good measure) SUPRISE SUPRISE GUESS WHERE THE MAIN POPULATION IS !!!???? BLOODY WORKING !!!!!!!!!!! And if thats not enough can someone PLEEEEASE explain to me how the hell a 1st calss parcel /letter can arrive to your door in UNDER 24 hours but it takes 48 PI$$in hours for it to arrive back at the depo 2 miles away before you can collect it?? Oh......... of course bearing in mind you need to give up normal life to fetch the dam thing - battered to bits of course. The attitude down there sucks when you go - anything you need to do over the post office (local village for local people ) counter is different in every one you go to! Different systems different opening times to which you have no idea when they are - and topping it off a queue to rival that at a burger van burger at 1am sunday morning when you do get chance to go in your 15 min break. Oh but at least you get to catch up on the local gossip and other shite going off in the lifes of those who dont work. The rates for posting parcels are different in every one????!!!!! work that out !!??!! I post loads of stuff - different every time by a mile!! No wonder they suffer - The Royal Mail Sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsportcars Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 So postal workers are striking because the Royal mail wants to modernise??? So if the Royal mail give in to them then the system will still be the same old shiite as Mark has mentioned above and we will be paying them to do a crap service if any at all. I say put all the moaners out and get a more competent and reliable machine to to their simple jobs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 just to add looks like a deal has been done so i would guess monday and tuesdays strikes may happen, may not but a 2 year deal has been done with the unions so should be back to normal. just to answer a few things that have been said. royal main are still a government agency and not a company as such, we still answer to the powers that be at number 10 its a common mistake to think we have a shite post service, for what we pay in this country we get a superb service, you post a first class (which is 1-3 days) in say france or germany which have postal services to die for (figure of speech but there superb) and it will cost you at least £1 for a stamp for a small letter, in this country 32p so they have been run on a shoe string with not enough money coming in for the service they give so they need to put all the prices up and change all the equipment to modern equipment and we will also have a superb postal service. also to add, parcelforce did not have any problems last night so all parcels should have been delivered as normal Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 just to add looks like a deal has been done so i would guess monday and tuesdays strikes may happen, may not but a 2 year deal has been done with the unions so should be back to normal. just to answer a few things that have been said. royal main are still a government agency and not a company as such, we still answer to the powers that be at number 10 its a common mistake to think we have a shite post service, for what we pay in this country we get a superb service, you post a first class (which is 1-3 days) in say france or germany which have postal services to die for (figure of speech but there superb) and it will cost you at least £1 for a stamp for a small letter, in this country 32p so they have been run on a shoe string with not enough money coming in for the service they give so they need to put all the prices up and change all the equipment to modern equipment and we will also have a superb postal service. also to add, parcelforce did not have any problems last night so all parcels should have been delivered as normal Mike You sure about that? I send stuff from our French office all the time and sure I would have realised if it was costing me 1Eu60 to send a letter. Could be wrong, but feel sure I would have realised this before now. Will be there next week so will check. Anyhow, if it wasn't for Ebay taking off in the way it did a couple of years back they would have probably been privatised ages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 can they not just put the price up on stamps a couple of pence to cover their costs and shut some people up. i mean who is really going to give a sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I got a delivery today as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 You sure about that? I send stuff from our French office all the time and sure I would have realised if it was costing me 1Eu60 to send a letter. Could be wrong, but feel sure I would have realised this before now. Will be there next week so will check. Anyhow, if it wasn't for Ebay taking off in the way it did a couple of years back they would have probably been privatised ages ago. well i say about a £1 is certainly more than double the 32p that you pay in this country!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4RK RZ Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 can they not just put the price up on stamps a couple of pence to cover their costs and shut some people up. i mean who is really going to give a sh*t !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 !!!!!!! your not wrong mate but they need to double the price really and the old folk would go mad LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 its a common mistake to think we have a shite post service, for what we pay in this country we get a superb service, you post a first class (which is 1-3 days) in say france or germany which have postal services to die for (figure of speech but there superb) and it will cost you at least £1 for a stamp for a small letter, in this country 32p so they have been run on a shoe string with not enough money coming in for the service they give so they need to put all the prices up and change all the equipment to modern equipment and we will also have a superb postal service. I'm sorry but I disagree. Whether simple letters are reasonably priced or not, parcels are absolutely ridiculous. Have you ever had to send a parcel out of the country? Say to Ireland or the Netherlands, or anywhere in Europe? It's extremely expensive, so much so that it's not economically viable to compete with those in other countries in Europe when it comes to selling goods across borders. And anything weighing over 1.5kg or so costs nearly £20 to send within England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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