Chris Wilson Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Originally posted by Lazarus Stock for the car is 16's, its an SZ, But they've been changed to 17 inch Enkei 5 spokes with the same offset as standard UK rims. Do the Turbo cars and the N/A's have the same rear hub assembly's? I think so, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m5 killer Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 i think you are right everyone i know who has a supra have all had to change bearings and its nearside that goes first, my one needs changing as well but i will get it done in belgium its only 48 euros an hor labour and parts are 30% cheaper and if you are a trader another 15% off parts so that works out at an average of £34 pounds an hour labour plus tax which is 20% so thats about 41.08 pounds an hour, not bad and the workmanship is much better in that part of europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDub Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 I have to concede part of your response Chris, but I am also still of the opinion that torque plays a part in the excess wear/load. My reason is that torque will cause a whip (not Bondage lol) action in the driveshaft which will be transmitted to the hub in the form of the shaft trying to run eccentrically, this causes load from the inside of the bearing (inner race) through the balls & ultimately to the outer race. Also whip will cause heat (we're not talking Sh1t loads, but still over a period of time - most of the cars on this site seem to be about 10 years old) there will be a difference in wear patterns from side to side. This will be accentuated by road camber & roundabouts (your points). The other point I was trying to make about torque is that the propshaft is trying to throw the NSR into the ground (through the diff.) Whilst trying to lift the OSR off the ground (again - forces of physics) That's the main reason for rear wheel drive cars trying to kick out to the left during wheel-spin. And I am sure that all of these forces (caused predominately by torque) cause more stress to the NSR bearing than to the OSR. Hence my original comments..........Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s crane Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I had my rear wheel bearing changed at Toyota back in May 02 (before I knew better and took it somewhere cheaper for this kind of thing!). I've got the receipt here. They charged 2.6 hours labour. Total bill was 386.50 inc VAT. Here was the breakdown: T90369-43005 Needle bearing 125.45 T90521-85002 Circlip 1.59 T90311-57001 Oil Seal 16.51 T42451-50010 Deflector, W/Brg 18.63 T90179-26006 Nut 1.95 T42428-24010 Plate, lock nut 5.69 T90252-04004 Pin, cotter 0.16 T90311-63001 Oil Seal 21.16 Labour 137.80 Total 328.94 + VAT = 386.50 Like I say that was back in May 02 so the parts might have gone up since then. HTHhaving one fitted friday£120 all in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 In the US, the road racing people have had to replace wheel bearings commonly, so cornering must play a part, though, since most run non-stock wheels, offsets probably play the larger part. Whats a good estimate for the total to have all four replaced out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 having one fitted friday£120 all in Good luck , after hes done it get someone to phone up and see if he'll do another at that money Dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Just had both my rears done ... labour was £80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 The other point I was trying to make about torque is that the propshaft is trying to throw the NSR into the ground (through the diff.) Whilst trying to lift the OSR off the ground (again - forces of physics) I can see what you are getting at here but I don't think the effect would be anywhere near as pronounched as you think. The diff might well be exerting a hefty turning moment on the rear driveshafts and wheels, but there should be plenty of downward force at the hub ends to react it against. Having said that, at my last MOT my NSR hub bearing showed some play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Just had both my rears done ... labour was £80. Excelent price but allmost unbelievable as both rear hubs need to be removed from the car and then pressed apart , this was the difficult part , making something large enough to hold the hub whilst its pressed apart and remember we share our yard with a guy who only repairs lorries and he struggled to find large enough equipment , if i need to do mine again and someone quotes £80 to do just one i would happily pay him to do it , if T quote 2.6 hrs you can bank on it being longer (heater Matrix 4 hrs !!!) Dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I had my rear wheel bearing changed at Toyota back in May 02 (before I knew better and took it somewhere cheaper for this kind of thing!). I've got the receipt here. They charged 2.6 hours labour. Total bill was 386.50 inc VAT. Here was the breakdown: T90369-43005 Needle bearing 125.45 T90521-85002 Circlip 1.59 T90311-57001 Oil Seal 16.51 T42451-50010 Deflector, W/Brg 18.63 T90179-26006 Nut 1.95 T42428-24010 Plate, lock nut 5.69 T90252-04004 Pin, cotter 0.16 T90311-63001 Oil Seal 21.16 Labour 137.80 Total 328.94 + VAT = 386.50 Like I say that was back in May 02 so the parts might have gone up since then. HTH I need mine doing as well!! running costs for the car are high this year so far but it's all getting done. If I was to sell this car after I've had it, somebody is going to save a packet! anyway, yes, it's the NSR which is on its way out (slight scraping noise). Can anybody tell me if I need to order all of: T90369-43005 Needle bearing 125.45 T90521-85002 Circlip 1.59 T90311-57001 Oil Seal 16.51 T42451-50010 Deflector, W/Brg 18.63 T90179-26006 Nut 1.95 T42428-24010 Plate, lock nut 5.69 T90252-04004 Pin, cotter 0.16 T90311-63001 Oil Seal 21.16 Or just the bearing? I'll be having the work done by a very capable garage near me. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 would you beleive I bought a rear wheel bearing for a J-reg Nova from Halfords. and it was £11.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normore1 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Not correct at all, torque is applied via the driveshaft, a hub bearing sees very liitle loading change in relation to torque. the reason the LHR hub bearings fail more than the RHR is that the LH side is more often smashed into kerbs that the RH side Chris, doesn't fit my experience since my LH bearing went out about two years ago. I have a US model and the bearing failed when I was in the USA. Using your logic my RH bearing should have failed first since it is closest to the curb when driving on right side of the road!!!! My RH bearing is still good 15K miles later At least for now!! It is a bitch to change out the bearing especially if you have to get the bearing race off the hub. However in my experience usually the hub is knackered and you just throw it away. derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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