markjodrell Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Has anyone on here driven an MR2 gt twin turbo, I was just wondering how well they go in standard form 0-60 etc. I was passed by one a while back in my std TT , he caught me unaware but it was pretty quick I must say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 They are single turbo, not twin. A revision 3 onwards MR2 Turbo is a very quick little car (October '93 onwards) - like for like in standard trim they are quicker than a Supra TT. Both BPU, the Supra TT is the quicker car. Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadburys Purple Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I used to have one and I honestly didn't think it was that quick. Apart from having a HKS supper dragger it was still standard and running standard boost BUT the engine is the same 3S-GTE (2.0ltr twin entry turbo) that you get in the Celica GT4 and the T3 turbo on them is very restricted but with a decat, freeflow exhaust and boost controller they can go well. I think standard 0-60 is 5.9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 They don't run T3 turbos, they run Toyota's own CT20b. They run the same engine as the ST205 model GT-Four, the difference being the powerplant in the ST205 is chargecooled. The older MR2 turbo isn't particularly quick (most '93's and older). Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 As said, not twin turbo but twin entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 The older MR2 turbo isn't particularly quick (most '93's and older). Odd you say that, I found the two to be near identical, just the way they deliver the power is slightly different, the older CT26 cars feel like they spool faster but don't have the top end, the CT20 ones are smoother and keep pulling. There is ~20bhp difference between the two but actual performance figures are very close. The later car is the better option, especially if you want to mess with the engine, but with the price of the earlier ones now I wouldn't discount it because it "isn't particularly quick". Don't be too worried about being overtaken by one, there are lots of very quick examples around, a standard one would be similar to a TT, a modded one would put it to shame, just look at the TOTB results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Hmm I had a ride in a friends MR2 turbo and it had a fair load of mods. The supra TT felt quite a bit quicker and mine is standard. Maybe his wasnt running very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Maybe. Depending on revision, the MR2 has either 220 or 240 bhp I believe - and given their lack of weight, ther aren't slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 They are light, arent they a shade under 1300kg? If its 1300kg and 240 hp thats 184hp per ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 The 2 running at the POD in April gave a very good account of themselves in front of a very bias crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Odd you say that, I found the two to be near identical, just the way they deliver the power is slightly different, the older CT26 cars feel like they spool faster but don't have the top end, the CT20 ones are smoother and keep pulling. There is ~20bhp difference between the two but actual performance figures are very close. The later car is the better option, especially if you want to mess with the engine, but with the price of the earlier ones now I wouldn't discount it because it "isn't particularly quick". Don't be too worried about being overtaken by one, there are lots of very quick examples around, a standard one would be similar to a TT, a modded one would put it to shame, just look at the TOTB results I've driven a number of both. A standard rev.2 on the 1/4 mile I managed a 14.5 second pass. A standard rev.3 on the 1/4 mile I managed a 13.4 second pass in. That's quite a difference to me! Both done at Crail in similar conditions. By contrast, a standard Supra TT auto does a 13.8 second 1/4 mile pass at Crail (manuals slower as usual) - I've done that time in 2x different examples. Also, I've seen numerous standard rev.3 turbos get strapped to a dyno and put out anywhere from 250 - 280bhp on the same dyno. The power claim by Toyota is very conservative, just as it is for the JDM Supra. (320bhp on this exact same dyno for numerous standard examples) What about the TOTB results? I didn't see any MR2 Turbos running 11 sec passes without NOS on standard turbos, engine and fuelling Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Odd you say that, I found the two to be near identical, just the way they deliver the power is slightly different, the older CT26 cars feel like they spool faster but don't have the top end, the CT20 ones are smoother and keep pulling. Would agree with that, REV3 is heavier than the earlier revisions. Had a REV1 & 2 tubby in my time and loved them, fantastic wee cars rev1 can be a bit of a handful on the twistys, always waiting for the arse end to come round on you, more fun IMO but the rev2 and 3 are a bit more civilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I had a rev2 GTS, dyno'd with a HKS exhaust at 244bhp, weighed 1230ish kg wet with fuel in the tank, but mine didn't have abs, tcs, only 2 speaker radio, magnesium wheels. It wouldn't have weighed 1300kg with me sat in it. A few choice mods had it keeping up with Griff 500's to 100mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeny Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 This will be going in my 2 shortly:eyebrows: Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 That's quite impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Oooh lovely, RMR intake amongst otherthings - what turbo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Phwoooarrr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeny Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Oooh lovely, RMR intake amongst otherthings - what turbo ? Quick spec, 2.2 hks stroker kit Pauter rods GT4094r twin scroll T4 One-off custom twin wastegated 44mm & twin scorll manifold HKS 272's high lift cams 1150cc injectors etc,etc,etc Sorry for the thread jack, But to the thread starter go test drive a mr2, think you'l be surprised as to how quick they can be, but test drive a couple as there's ALOT of dogs about:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 MR2 Rev 1/2 0-60 5.7 Sec top speed 148mph 1/4 Mile 14.4 (14.1 has been accomplished but by a pro) MR2 Rev 3> 0-60 5.1 Sec Top Speed 154mph 1/4 Mile 14.0 (not sure what this has managed elsehwere) Any MR2 running mid 13's aint standard. It won't have much done but it deffo aint standard (check the IMOC 1/4 mile times). A full BPU MR2, healthy, will be running around 280bhp if its a Rev1/2 and a Rev3 will get to about 300bhp because of the larger injectors and higher boosting turbo. Boost for a Rev1/2 shouldn't be over 1Bar for a stock CT26, Rev3's have the smaller CT20b which can run up to 1.2 iirc. The main difference between the cars stock is the fueling, higher boost level and the fact the CT20b will boost to the redline whereas the CT26 will start tailing off after 5.5k revs. Times for full BPU cars are around 0-60 4.5 sec's and 1/4 mile times around low-mid 13's. I think the best for a Rev3 with just BPU is 13.1 Rev 1/2 will be slightly off that pace but not much. I have seen a 400bhp Supra being beat on the 1/4 mile by a 300bhp Rev2. Don't count them out off the line...... after 80 they are toast. Just make sure you aren't too far behind by then and you will be good to go. Scott =op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 My 390bhp Supra didn't seem to have much bother with them at the Ultimate Scottish Street Car Championship at Crail this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I was sceptical too TBH. I'm guessing the Supra driver was either average or not very good and the MR2 driver was either very good or average, if you get my meaning. How many TRUE 300bhp MR2's did you take on Up at crail i watched many a dog run the 1/4 mile. They were modded and running slower times than a standard one lol. Scott =op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I took on a whole bunch of modded MR2's, some running aftermarket turbos. I was running 11's on the day and took both the RWD and overall titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thats well impressive buddy!! Hitting 11's without even being over 400bhp. What was your 60ft? Absolutely superb! Oh, aint no 300bhp MR2 gonna get close to that. Scott =op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 my mr2 isnt toast after 80! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Talking mod for mod buddy Obviously the faster MR2's won't be left for dust but then again, there aint much left of the "toyota" engine by that time is there? Scott =op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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