GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 RIGHT I'm on here for a couple of minutes whinge What kind of bloody company still uses NT4 server anyway!!! Upgrade to SP6 and.... NOTHING! All services have stopped and, because the net logon service has stopped, I can't even log into the server Oh and guess what... it's the PDC, accounts box, file server.... oh and it's pay day for 200 staff!!! Anyone for a fight? [/rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Sounds like your having a good day.... Is it Service Pack 6a your using now, or have tried to use? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Sure is. Unfortunately it overwrites the Compaq Proliant system files and fooks the RAID controller Still... looks like I'm gonna get my new server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Did it perchance pop up a question saying "The file xxxx.sys is newer than the one you are trying to install, do you want to overwrite it?" and you said "Yes"? That's yer NIC driver. The question should be reworded to "Do you want your server to fall off the network forever?" Time to break out SmartStart 5.4 lol -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I'd roll it back to the ghost image you took just before you loaded any potentially dangerous updates onto the server... /runs for cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 new server? Buy it from me! [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 We pay for 3rd line support with another company and they just didn't want to know Could have really done with some help as well (I'm IT manager/1st line/2nd line/.... the IT dept). New server coming in Monday but until then... this place is gonna be hell... lucky I didn't sign the SLA then aint it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Good luck getting it sorted. When you get a moment we should talk as I know when it comes to purchasing kit I will be able to help you out. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I assume it boots up and you can login locally at the console. Have a look at the Event Viewer and see if there are any errors or warnings. I'm probably with Ian C on this, did it mention ovwerwriting an OEM file? You should be able to re-install the driver for the NIC if that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Had to happen on a friday aswell..... I've been stuck here till 8 before on a Friday because a server has went down. Do you have any backup stuff? We have a few surgerys with NT4 but where trying to standardise all the surgerys with XP Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Can't log in at all. Where you normally select where your logging in it only has the domain and not just the local machine I've done some 2am stints bringing servers back but they've all been 2000/2003 servers so they are SLIGHTLY less of a pain in the hoop to do. My new years eve party will be to celebrate the death of NT4 server (oh now I AM sad!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Is there no backup to the server? Our servers are all connected up to the QE Hospital so if one goes down we don't loose any info, not much help i know but is there nowhere it's stored or is the network just in and around your building? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 If you can't log in then how do you know what services have stopped? As it's the PDC the local login is the Domain so there is only the one option. (That doesn't read right, does it....) What happens when you enter the user/password and try to login? Can you ping it by IP address from another machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Yeah we have backups so should be ok there. I'd expect we could possibly recover some data from the server anyway. The gaffer just decided he wants a new server AND the old one back up and running for some strange reason Gonna be a long weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Login won't work on the server and neither will ping. There's a message on the login prompt about another service been disabled as well... I need a drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Have you tried booting with a last-known-good configuration and seeing if that helps. Depending on what is broken that may get you in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Yep I have and it don't work... BSOD every time. Bloody compaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Have you tried percussive adjustment? Sounds like it's needed at this stage. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I assume it's NFTS, if so do you have NTFS Pro? Or plan B, install NT into a different directory and pull the data off that way. Ian's Plan Big Hammer sounds more fun though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 It's been tried... "if in doubt, give it a clout" that's what I always say! For some STRANGE reason (only been in this company for a couple of month) but it's RAID 5 using two NTFS disks and one FAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by GeordieSteve For some STRANGE reason (only been in this company for a couple of month) but it's RAID 5 using two NTFS disks and one FAT. Conceptual problem..... The RAID array is made of physical disks that the controller manages and presents as logical disks. You then create partitions on these logical disks and these partitions can be formatted using a file system, such as FAT or NTFS etc. The controller neither knows nor cares what file system is used. All it does is hide the underlying disk structure in a variety of cunning ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 NT4 may be shit......but it's one of the most used operating systems in a amall office, it was designed for that purpose but i'm not a big fan... Get rid Steve lol Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Not be so widely used soon with it dieing out at the end of 04. p.s..... It's 21.51 and I'm still at work fixing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 Ok so I FINALLY get home at 11.45 and find out my dog (had him for 17 years) has died. This day is going to be my own little national SHIT day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Oh no. Sorry to hear that mate 17 is an amazing age for a dog though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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