R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 OK guys, I'm finally in a financial position where I can seriously start thinking about my project My plan is to do a engine and gearbox swap into my Aerotop so I'm looking for some advice. As I'm having all this work done it seems only sensible to go BPU at the same time and need some advice as to what I can expect... I'm obviously going to need a twin turbo engine, manual gearbox and possibly a TT manual wiring loom but other than that I need some serious educating? please could people advise what else I'd need and perhaps recommend garages to do the work? I'll add a shopping list to this post as the thread goes on so people can see what I'm planning p.s. (I'm in Cambridgeshire) ------------------------------ Updated Shopping List Stage 1 - Engine Swap TT engine - re-built 6 speed Manual Gearbox + wirring loom? Brakes - Springs - Dampers - Engine Mounts - Transmission Mounts - FMIC - manual TT ECU - Stage 2 - BPU Decat Pipes - Restrictor Ring / Boost Controller - (depending on donor) Cat Back Exhaust - (would a NurSpec do?) Fuel Cut Defender - New Fuel Pump - Iridium IK22 plugs - Boost Gauge - AFR guage - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I would say speak to Jez and add yourself to the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Brakes ? springs & dampers to cope with the extra weight of TT engine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 most TT's have the smaller breaks anyway dont they as standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 i'd put BPU on hold, you can easily do this later when the engine is installed. I'd concentrate on stock bits like new engine mounts and tranmission mounts etc ie the things that are probably a bit worn and that are easily replaced when doing major work like you have planned........ going from NA to stock TT is a massive hike in power as it is..... I'd contact Smellywelshman to see what he thinks of his recent na to tt conversion.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 it's really just a wish list at the moment so I need to factor all the cost in including BPU so I can plan when to do the work. One thing I was thinking about was buying a manual TT and using it as a donor - getting both engines re-built and swapping everything over so I end up with a re-built n/a to re-sell at the end as well Is this do-able? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Hi mate, got your PM. My advice would be to hand your car over to Jezz and let him do the major work of swapping all the gubbins over. Theres no substitute for experience mate, and they've done the heart transplant loads of times. They just know exactly what needs doing, and they dont hang around doing it;) Theres also brilliant communications (by PM or phone) and just speaking to them puts your mind at ease about any (and there will be a few of them) questions you have. As scooters said, I'd personally leave BPU for now as its enough to do the swap and as long as you get an fmic fitted with the conversion as I did:d;) BPU will be fairly easy and affordable at a later date! Besides, you've got to leave yourself some mods to look forward to whan you start getting bored with a mere 330 odd ponies!! Good luck with it mate, you WONT be dissapointed:d Oh, and my suspension and brakes are coping fine. Untill I decide to change themthat is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 ah, cheers for the advice dudes I've contacted Jezz so will wait and see what he says but I think I'll split the work into two sections as you've reccomended... getting the engine swapped and running and then perhaps pusing BPU upwards towards 500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Rob you'll also need a manual TT ECU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ah, cheers for the advice dudes I've contacted Jezz so will wait and see what he says but I think I'll split the work into two sections as you've reccomended... getting the engine swapped and running and then perhaps pusing BPU upwards towards 500? 500hp is not possible at BPU levels, you'd need to fit a small single turbo to achieve that sort of power. The limit on stock turbos would be around 430fwhp max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Cheers Nic... Really? I thought the TT was tunable to around 500 on stock turbos??? I think a couple of people have been exagerating then does anyone know if there's a major difference between the five and six speed bokes? (apart from the obvious) performance, reliability etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Cheers Nic... Really? I thought the TT was tunable to around 500 on stock turbos??? I think a couple of people have been exagerating then does anyone know if there's a major difference between the five and six speed bokes? (apart from the obvious) performance, reliability etc? The 5spd box has a limit of what hp/torque it can deal with, BPU TT will really be pushing those limits to the breaking point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 lol ok List updated cheers again Nic - I gget the feeling that this list is gonna get very expensive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 It would probably be a lot more cost effective to sell the NA and go for a tt straight out, unless you want to do this to retain the aerotop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yep got to retain the Aerotop I'm still a show off after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 bet your the kind of person who drives around with shades and your arm hanging out the window too right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 lol, you've seen me! lol nah, try to avoid the arm out the window thing ever since clarkson named it as a Top Gear Sin Sun Glasses are a must though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What chassis strengthening options are available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 What chassis strengthening options are available? What because it's an Aero? I thought the chasis were all prety much the same between n/a and TT ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezz Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What because it's an Aero? I thought the chasis were all prety much the same between n/a and TT ??? Yep, Aero's have the same chassis na and tt. There's a few extra pillar brackets, 2mm rails inside the sills, and a 5th strip inside the screen surround, compared to the hard top. I took great pleasure with a disc cutter one day just to see the differences. I'll get some pics up of the results actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yep, Aero's have the same chassis na and tt. There's a few extra pillar brackets, 2mm rails inside the sills, and a 5th strip inside the screen surround, compared to the hard top. I took great pleasure with a disc cutter one day just to see the differences. I'll get some pics up of the results actually. That would be interesting Jezz........ But surely that makes it that the chassis are not the same, as the Areo has been strengthened further to stop flex when the roof is off..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What because it's an Aero? I thought the chasis were all prety much the same between n/a and TT ??? You wont need chassis stregthening, yours is the strongest already as its an Areo...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 the Areo has been strengthened further to stop flex when the roof is off..... :s%/stop/"compensate for" You wont need chassis stregthening, yours is the strongest already as its an Areo...... Doesn't the medallion/chestwig model still handle worse than a proper Supra despite the attempts to stiffen the chassis in lieu of a roof? Style over substance - the very spirit of the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I read somewhere that an onwer with an aerotop parked it on an uneven surface and couldn't bolt the roof on thats how much it flexed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 :s%/stop/"compensate for" Doesn't the medallion/chestwig model still handle worse than a proper Supra despite the attempts to stiffen the chassis in lieu of a roof? Style over substance - the very spirit of the 90's. So they say, yeah..... I should edit my previous statement then to say that the chassis has been strengthened further to 'try' and stop it flexing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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