jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Dunno if anyone one here can give any advice, but some developer is planning knocking down the pub in our village & turning it into 11 flats. Everyone in the village is against it, but at the minute all we can do is express our concerns in letters. Is there a better way to get it stopped, would a petition help? Can I get a lawyer to argue the case (would he give our side more weight) & where can I find such a chap? Advice would be welcome from anyone who has been in the same situation, esp if you got the plans overturned Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Is the pub still in use? I recall seeing something on TV a while ago about a lot of village pubs getting closed down and people trying to prevent it stating that it's a central meeting point in the village and important to the community or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Is the pub still in use? I recall seeing something on TV a while ago about a lot of village pubs getting closed down and people trying to prevent it stating that it's a central meeting point in the village and important to the community or something like that. No, somebody took over the pub, basically ran it into the ground, & I believe he's in the consortium who are proposing the new plans!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Dunno if anyone one here can give any advice, but some developer is planning knocking down the pub in our village & turning it into 11 flats. Everyone in the village is against it, but at the minute all we can do is express our concerns in letters. Is there a better way to get it stopped, would a petition help? Can I get a lawyer to argue the case (would he give our side more weight) & where can I find such a chap? Advice would be welcome from anyone who has been in the same situation, esp if you got the plans overturned Ta maybe try to get a national paper involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 maybe try to get a national paper involved? Good idea, don't think The Sun would be interested, but Durham Advertiser/Northern Echo maybe. Will chat with the neighbours about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Maybe you could get a friendly wildlife expert to claim the lesser spotted nicaraguian gogglemeister is nesting in the roof of said pub Or a similar endangered species Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Maybe you could get a friendly wildlife expert to claim the lesser spotted nicaraguian gogglemeister is nesting in the roof of said pub Or a similar endangered species They are no longer on the danger list as CW has been breeding the numbers back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Is it a listed building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbk Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 No, somebody took over the pub, basically ran it into the ground, & I believe he's in the consortium who are proposing the new plans!!! There is your weapon, make sure planning are aware of that fact. It was tried in our village, in the end plannig approval was refused, pub sold to a real publican and now thriving. Planning departments sometimes need to be made aware that they are being duped, or more importantly that the public know that they (the planning department) are being duped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonW Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I saw an article on the news last night that said if you can get 9 people in your village involved then you can have a legally binding referendum on any subject. Worth checking the law on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Is it a listed building? I don't think it is Alex There is your weapon, make sure planning are aware of that fact. It was tried in our village, in the end plannig approval was refused, pub sold to a real publican and now thriving. Planning departments sometimes need to be made aware that they are being duped, or more importantly that the public know that they (the planning department) are being duped. It was mentioned to the planning dept the first time they submitted plans, and I'll mention it again in a letter. They've now pulled the 1st plans & re-submitted new ones which means the whole process starts again, we all have to complain again otherwise they take it as we are happy with the proposals!!! Whole thing stinks IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I saw an article on the news last night that said if you can get 9 people in your village involved then you can have a legally binding referendum on any subject. Worth checking the law on that one. Will look into that too, again thanks for the ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Get the objectors to pool together and buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The letters can help. My house backs onto an industrial estate, and a company applied to get rid of an empty building there and build flats - and apparently, this also suits the govt plans of using brown field sites. I (and I suspect all of my neighbours) objected and it never happened. It was slightly different - we could list reasons such as loss of light (much higher building), loss of privacy etc. but it did seem to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Get the objectors to pool together and buy it? I would buy it & turn it into a house, everyone who lives there thinks it would be a great idea as I'd renovate the existing building (keeping it in style with the village). Trouble is now the developers own the land they're not gonna give it up when they could get £xxx,xxx's by putting flats on it. PS I'm not just against the proposed plans for my own personal gain, if they were to put forward plans to turn it into a nice house I'd be more than happy for them, it's just a three stoery block of 11 flats isn't in-keeping with the village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 The letters can help. My house backs onto an industrial estate, and a company applied to get rid of an empty building there and build flats - and apparently, this also suits the govt plans of using brown field sites. I (and I suspect all of my neighbours) objected and it never happened. It was slightly different - we could list reasons such as loss of light (much higher building), loss of privacy etc. but it did seem to work. Same reason apply here too Dave (it's 3 storeys), so the objections may end up working, give's me something to hope for anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 You all need to get together (your neighbours), have a good old fashioned meeting and get your concerns / objections down on paper as a collective. then all sign it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Flaming developers will try anything these days. One of the more unscrupulous ones in this area arranged a supermarket to be set afire recently because they want to get hold of the land and built flats. (allegedly ) Write a letter to your local rag to let everyone know that the planning office are being duped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 My advice is go to a solicitor. It isn’t to do with arguing, more to do with preventing them through finding ways and means. If you want to do some things yourself, then ask the people who live very local to the pub (where boundaries may touch) if they have their land registry documents, they may have restrictive covenants which may prevent the pub being something else or being built over a certain height etc. Planning permission would also be required to convert it from a pub to apartments I am guessing so you should also have a method of voicing your views when the local authority review the idea (or you may have missed your chance here if they have started building). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 why have they changed the original scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 :thumbdown:They could start converting it without planning permision which is what happend next door to my partners house. The house was split into two flates .The council were made aware of the fact but basicly did not give a fuck even though they continued building to different plans than the ones submitted.The council did end up giving planning permision Even after the builder took the piss out of their own system. BUT HEY THEY NOW GET TWO LOTS OF COUNCIL TAX The council were a waste of space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 why have they changed the original scheme? I don't know, it wasn't as if the last plan was blocked as it never got that far, they just withdrew & resumbitted new ones (minor changes - it's still an 11 flat eyesore ) It hasn't been passed yet so we've still time to voice our views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I don't know, it wasn't as if the last plan was blocked as it never got that far, they just withdrew & resumbitted new ones (minor changes - it's still an 11 flat eyesore ) It hasn't been passed yet so we've still time to voice our views. My advice with regard tot he Land registry still stands... you never know there may be a covenant or something which may piss on their bonfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 My advice with regard tot he Land registry still stands... you never know there may be a covenant or something which may piss on their bonfire. Advice taken on board & will look into, cheers Marble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I don't know, it wasn't as if the last plan was blocked as it never got that far, they just withdrew & resumbitted new ones (minor changes - it's still an 11 flat eyesore ) It hasn't been passed yet so we've still time to voice our views. Be aware, if they knew what the objections were to the first scheme they may well have adjusted the new scheme to take this into account. If the council want it it will almost certainly be passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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