Jamesy Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 My list of mods are: FMIC HKS Fuel system - 680cc injectors, walbro fuelpump HKS Cams - 264/264 Induction Exhaust full decat Hybrid turbos LINK ecu hiya dude! hope you dont mind me asking but how much £££'s did it cost for those mods, supplied and fitted? i'd LOVE to be running at 450 odd BHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What about headwork Alex ? Porting, polishing, slightly oversize valves etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyknox Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Work on the head edit: beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 hiya dude! hope you dont mind me asking but how much £££'s did it cost for those mods, supplied and fitted? i'd LOVE to be running at 450 odd BHP FMIC - £650 HKS Fuel system - 680cc injectors, walbro fuelpump - £900 HKS Cams - 264/264 - £400 Induction - on car Exhaust full decat - on car Hybrid turbos - £300 LINK ecu - £1500 (but could be cheaper knowing what I now know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 What about headwork Alex ? Porting, polishing, slightly oversize valves etc Work on the head edit: beat me to it Good point!! Who can do this work? What needs to be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yeah but you didn't say engine, so I had to double check...seeing as we were talking about TB's!!!! He *could* fit a 3.4...but then the turbo's are the main limitation and the cost is somewhat immense to do a 3.4. Not really interested in spending silly money like that but it is a nice idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The head flows pretty well...but you could lighten and strengthen the valveltrain and allow yourself a higher RPM limit. Chris Wilson has redone a few heads and might be worth asking for his views on doing head work. The turbo's manifold and exhaust ports are all sized to match each other. So if you enlarge the ports on one then you really should be enlarging all.... I think it's a case of diminishing returns. you've gained the bulk of the power you can with hybrids now you're looking at mods that might cost more than the gain is worth. It was mentioned earlier, the GReddy LW pulley set is worthwhile for taking more weight off the front of the nose of the engine...and if you really want it to zing through the revs you'll want to consider a lighter clutch and flywheel combo, but it will be at the cost of NVH harshness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 The head flows pretty well...but you could lighten and strengthen the valveltrain and allow yourself a higher RPM limit. Chris Wilson has redone a few heads and might be worth asking for his views on doing head work. The turbo's manifold and exhaust ports are all sized to match each other. So if you enlarge the ports on one then you really should be enlarging all.... I think it's a case of diminishing returns. you've gained the bulk of the power you can with hybrids now you're looking at mods that might cost more than the gain is worth. It was mentioned earlier, the GReddy LW pulley set is worthwhile for taking more weight off the front of the nose of the engine...and if you really want it to zing through the revs you'll want to consider a lighter clutch and flywheel combo, but it will be at the cost of NVH harshness. I realise that I am hitting the end of the performance zone of the hybrids. The bang for buck for a single conversion is starting to become really good. Just want to see how far I can push the twin setup. I will go single once these hybrids let go, but until then, I want to play with the current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I think it's a case of diminishing returns. Exactly the problem, it's a healthy hp output, good set of mods, Ryan's tinkering will help next weekend. Otherwise, get out there and enjoy it ! But start saving for a single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Anyone say light flywheel???? *Cough* http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=124813 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magictorch Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 FMIC - £650 HKS Fuel system - 680cc injectors, walbro fuelpump - £900 HKS Cams - 264/264 - £400 Induction - on car Exhaust full decat - on car Hybrid turbos - £300 LINK ecu - £1500 (but could be cheaper knowing what I now know) Hi Graham Im going to be using the Link on my Single...What do you know now;) PM me if you want Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Anyone say light flywheel???? *Cough* http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=124813 not I Good luck with your sale but just for clarity I meant one of the clutch setups that come with a flywheel....ie the TRD 2 disc, HKS, OS Gilken, Tilton, RPS CC. Clutch and flywheel made for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 FMIC - £650 HKS Fuel system - 680cc injectors, walbro fuelpump - £900 HKS Cams - 264/264 - £400 Induction - on car Exhaust full decat - on car Hybrid turbos - £300 LINK ecu - £1500 (but could be cheaper knowing what I now know) wow! sounds pukka mate! (could you not have done a single conversion for that kinda dosh? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 wow! sounds pukka mate! (could you not have done a single conversion for that kinda dosh? ) yes, but not in my mind. if you are going to go single, you may as well do it properly! and £300 on hybrids would not have done for a decent single conversion. I decided that I would rather go for decent power with all the supporting mods and go for the single later, instead of doing what I would call a "poor single install", a single conversion with no supporting mods... However my car is in a great position to go single if/when I decide to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Does anyone think of the disadvantages of having more power... I can list a few:- More things are prone to Break Less reliability More wear on engine powers. Not been able to use all the power on the road (so what's the point) More chance of killing yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Does anyone think of the disadvantages of having more power... I can list a few:- More things are prone to Break Less reliability More wear on engine powers. Not been able to use all the power on the road (so what's the point) More chance of killing yourself Fuel consumption becomes interesting Mine has been off the road more than on Tyre wear Insurance costs Girlfriend thinks I am crackers Mates that dont care for cars much think the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Does anyone think of the disadvantages of having more power... I can list a few:- More things are prone to Break Less reliability More wear on engine powers. Not been able to use all the power on the road (so what's the point) More chance of killing yourself good points, now back on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Does anyone think of the disadvantages of having more power... I can list a few:- More things are prone to Break Less reliability More wear on engine powers. Not been able to use all the power on the road (so what's the point) More chance of killing yourself Yeah but now tell me that you care about ANY of that once you plant it on a straight, you hear the wastegate open up and you leave everyone behind like they've turned their engine off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 i like the idea of a digi dash and more weight saving measures as said there is a lot that can be stripped. Would you be happy with the noise created from all this weight reduction ? I expect you are going to be poroducing a lot of heat too, how about some sort of heat reduction, vented bonnet, wrap and heat barrier coatings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yeah but now tell me that you care about ANY of that once you plant it on a straight, you hear the wastegate open up and you leave everyone behind like they've turned their engine off There are upsides... The big grin for start.... On the downside again Instead of the Beegee's song "How ideep is your love it should be renamed to "How deep are your pockets" Because oh boy you'll need them just for the upkeep of a 5 to 700hp car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 i like the idea of a digi dash and more weight saving measures as said there is a lot that can be stripped. Would you be happy with the noise created from all this weight reduction ? I expect you are going to be poroducing a lot of heat too, how about some sort of heat reduction, vented bonnet, wrap and heat barrier coatings. Well the current sounds I listen to are, fuel pump priming and and making a continuous buzzing sound, road noise, rattles, squeaks, bov,, etc however the best sound I have heard is when you put your foot down, the turbos start sucking in air and that is when the supra is on song, perfect... then comes that bloody bov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 yes, but not in my mind. if you are going to go single, you may as well do it properly! and £300 on hybrids would not have done for a decent single conversion. I decided that I would rather go for decent power with all the supporting mods and go for the single later, instead of doing what I would call a "poor single install", a single conversion with no supporting mods... However my car is in a great position to go single if/when I decide to. good point - you ceretainly have built a monster TT!! so if i spent £300 on hybrid turbos can i just whack them in my Jpsec and off i go ? or is it not as striaght forward as that? what bhp gains to the 2 hybrids give? (£300 sounds a bloody good price!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Well the current sounds I listen to are, fuel pump priming and and making a continuous buzzing sound, road noise, rattles, squeaks, bov,, etc however the best sound I have heard is when you put your foot down, the turbos start sucking in air and that is when the supra is on song, perfect... then comes that bloody bov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 good point - you ceretainly have built a monster TT!! so if i spent £300 on hybrid turbos can i just whack them in my Jpsec and off i go ? or is it not as striaght forward as that? what bhp gains to the 2 hybrids give? (£300 sounds a bloody good price!) I would not do it by it self, other parts are needed, boost controller, fueling, cooling, etc I got the hybrids off a fellow member who was going single with his supra good deal, since I knew my turbos were shagged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 New hybrids, which is what ive just bought for my car are about £650 each, so £1300 for a pair, but im sure you can get them cheaper, thing is im getting a 12 month warranty with mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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