Nissan Skyline R34

[grahamc]

Has anyone on here owned this or currently own one? I know there is one owner in Japan, seeing his pictures was the reason...

 

I am giving some serious thought to changing to this in the new year...

 

What sort of differences would I expect with regards to:

 

Insurance

Fueling

Mods

 

What are the differences in spec? VSpec, VSpec II, etc.

 

Can these be imported? If so, Jurgen, at what cost?

 

Opinions?

[Nic]

Nick who now lives in Japan owns a modified R34 and use to own a modified Supra in the UK, so he'd be worth chatting to.

[grahamc]

Nick who now lives in Japan owns a modified R34 and use to own a modified Supra in the UK, so he'd be worth chatting to.

 

I think it was his that I saw Looks wicked!! Will also have a chat with him.

[Matt H]

I think it was his that I saw Looks wicked!! Will also have a chat with him.

 

I tell you what that skyline is something else. stunning

[Nick]

That's mine, thanks for the comments

 

I'd suggest having a look on http://www.gtr.co.uk first, lots of info on there. I'm a trader there now, my username is Kanzen and I'm now working with Mine's in Japan.

 

I don't know about insurance in the UK other than it's more expensive than a Supra. I believe importing is possible if the car is standard.

 

Happy to help if I can.

[Alex]

Nick, just had a look at your website - didn't know you were doing that, good work

 

The VX-ROM...you say you can get info on the map, does this stretch to Supra's with a MINES modified ECU??

[Jurgen-Jm-Imports]

hi graham,

 

i have drove few R34 GTR and they are superb cars - can be used for any road conditions and at any time..

 

i have a dansih friend nicholas quiesa he has a 750 bhp r34 gtr full trim and he uses it all day- and does 10.2 sec quarter miles yet he uses it for shopping in too..

 

 

we can get them imported but (must be stock for the test in uk to pass)

 

cost are not cheap about 27k 30k on road for a very very nice example.

 

 

if you look on zele-international they have some nice r34 for sale but they are mint and command higher price.

[grahamc]

That's mine, thanks for the comments

 

I'd suggest having a look on http://www.gtr.co.uk first, lots of info on there. I'm a trader there now, my username is Kanzen and I'm now working with Mine's in Japan.

 

I don't know about insurance in the UK other than it's more expensive than a Supra. I believe importing is possible if the car is standard.

 

Happy to help if I can.

 

Yes its yours! Absolutely loved that car!! Stunning!! Even my fiancee loves!!

 

hi graham,

 

i have drove few R34 GTR and they are superb cars - can be used for any road conditions and at any time..

 

i have a dansih friend nicholas quiesa he has a 750 bhp r34 gtr full trim and he uses it all day- and does 10.2 sec quarter miles yet he uses it for shopping in too..

 

 

we can get them imported but (must be stock for the test in uk to pass)

 

cost are not cheap about 27k 30k on road for a very very nice example.

 

 

if you look on zele-international they have some nice r34 for sale but they are mint and command higher price.

 

Thats good to know, that they can be imported. Are they classified as standard if the parts are in the boot?

 

I hoping that the prices come down a little with the new one, but not a big deal if it does not.

 

Anyone know any owners in this country? in surrey perhaps (I think I need to go for a drive in one ) - will also post on the gtr forum.

[Nick]

Hi Alex,

 

If you can Email me the details I'll see what I can find out. They will only provide basic info though such as max boost, rev limit, injector size etc etc.

 

I need the original ECU number as well as the Mine's number. Couple of pictures would help too if you have them.

[Nick]

There's been a lot of debate about prices.

 

Some people think they will fall, but others think they will remain solid as the new GT-R won't use the RB26 and it's popularity is in question.

 

R33 prices have really dropped recently, but right now you still have to pay for a good R34 and R32. Time will tell, you can't escape depreciation !

[Alex]

Nick - i don't have one anymore...but anyone with a MINES ECU should probably drop you a line

 

/ends hijack

[Nick]

Nick - i don't have one anymore...but anyone with a MINES ECU should probably drop you a line

 

/ends hijack

 

No problem:)

[fishman]

 

i have a dansih friend nicholas quiesa he has a 750 bhp r34 gtr full trim and he uses it all day- and does 10.2 sec quarter miles yet he uses it for shopping in too..

 

 

 

seen some pics and vids of that car looks very and is blooming quick......

[supra steveo]

there is one or was one for sale in Newcastle, bright yellow but its been there a while now dont know if there is any thing wrong with it never stopped to look at it think its a GTR too just down the road from 4 lane ends at the car wash place

[Daston]

I am also thinking of an R34 in the future but there are just so many cars I would like to have but none of them have made me fall totaly in love them enough to want to own for ever. So far the list is

 

Ultima Can-am

R34

355

911 964 Turbo

NSX

Viper

 

all around the 30k mark but none really want me to keep it for ever.

[grahamc]

I am also thinking of an R34 in the future but there are just so many cars I would like to have but none of them have made me fall totaly in love them enough to want to own for ever. So far the list is

 

Ultima Can-am

R34

355

911 964 Turbo

NSX

Viper

 

all around the 30k mark but none really want me to keep it for ever.

 

mine is:

 

supra tt 6sp - done

22b

r34 gtr

v8 vantage

430 ferrari convertible (poser type car)

 

Will see where I am when the dust settles

[Nick]

Hi Graham. This is my opinion, for what it's worth.

 

They're both very different cars, but equally fun in their own way.

 

Aesthetically I find the R34 a little more understated. I like the subtle lines of the Nismo kit, and the MFD2 has all the functions you need neatly packaged instead of having gauges all over the place. The V-Spec II also comes with a carbon fibre bonnet from the factory which is *outstanding* quality, as well as a carbon rear diffuser. My car came with a Nismo kit already fitted, which is also outstanding quality and fit. There's no need to mess around with aftermarket kits and crap. A standard Supra is still a prettier car though IMO, it has fantastic lines and is very sleek. What I like though is the thuggish look of the R34 from the front, and the larger rear arches give it a nice presence. It's not over the top, just quietly hostile if you know what I mean.

 

Power wise in standard form they're very similar. Power delivery is very smooth and linear with the parallel turbos. There's not the kick of the 2nd turbo coming in which I missed when I first bought it. To be honest I was a little disappointed as I went to a standard GT-R from my BPU Supra which was running 1.2bar and went very well. It just didn't have the same grunt as the Supra.

 

You need to rev the RB26 to get the most from it, where as you can be quite lazy with the JZ and let the low down torque do the work. The R34 is heavier with all the 4wd gear but it doesn't feel heavy to drive at all, very nimble in fact. I have Nismo S-Tune suspension and it's great fun on twisty roads, you can really throw it into the corners. I feel an upgrade to Ohlin's is on the cards though to cope with the extra power it now has.

 

The thing that really hits you with the GT-R is just the endless grip. It's just unbelievable. Requires a different driving style to the Supra but once you adapt to it it's just so much fun. On the mountain roads I find myself barrelling into corners at silly speeds and the car just takes it in it's stride. I need to get it on the track to find it's limits, you need to drive like an absolute loon to find them on the road. In the wet there's no comparison between a GT-R and a Supra, the Supra just can't put the power down as well and RLTC (which I had) whilst very good isn't a substitute for the GT-R's Attessa system.

 

The GT-R brakes are rubbish. Like the J-Spec brakes on the Supra they really are a joke, but were a cost compromise from the factory. The build quality also isn't as good either, for example there isn't a nice "clunk" when you close the door or boot. But, the seats are far, far better and very supportive and you can actually fit people other than small children and dwarves in the back and stuff in the boot. The gearbox is nice and precise, and the steering feel is very good. The box isn't as strong as the Supra's Getrag though. Also ceramic turbos mean that if you turn up the boost, just like the Supra, it's a lottery when they'll let go...

 

Since buying the car I've had a lot of work done. A complete Mine's Stage 2 engine with 2530 turbos and the necessary, as well as Brembo brakes all round. I'm not sure exactly how much power it's making, when I asked the chief mechanic he sort of cocked his head to one side and said "Hmmmm, over 600PS. Doesn't matter, drives well! Good response! Very fast!". That's the truth, it goes like stink and with the VX-ROM it starts first time every time, and is very smooth and well behaved. No hassle around town, very sedate and quiet too with the titanium exhaust system. The engine has been built for response, and when you open it up and the turbos come on boost it changes from a quiet and well behaved car to a howling rev crazed animal. Sounds more like a big bike than a car, awesome in the various tunnels around Yokohama

 

The Supra is cheaper to modify to BPU, but when you're looking at more extensive modifications they're about the same I think. Both costs and arm and a leg !

 

The V-Spec II is the one to go for IMO. Late spec means a nicer interior in black as well as the carbon parts and extra features. The Nur has a stronger and smoother engine, but they're rarer and more expensive. Little point buying one if you're planning big modifications, better off selling the engine as gutting it is a waste.

 

I'm not interested in arguments about which car is better, I've owned both and really enjoy driving both. They're just different. I often miss the Supra, it was a great car but don't ever regret buying the GT-R. I'd do the same again.

[grahamc]

Hi Graham. This is my opinion, for what it's worth.

 

They're both very different cars, but equally fun in their own way.

 

Aesthetically I find the R34 a little more understated. I like the subtle lines of the Nismo kit, and the MFD2 has all the functions you need neatly packaged instead of having gauges all over the place. The V-Spec II also comes with a carbon fibre bonnet from the factory which is *outstanding* quality, as well as a carbon rear diffuser. My car came with a Nismo kit already fitted, which is also outstanding quality and fit. There's no need to mess around with aftermarket kits and crap. A standard Supra is still a prettier car though IMO, it has fantastic lines and is very sleek. What I like though is the thuggish look of the R34 from the front, and the larger rear arches give it a nice presence. It's not over the top, just quietly hostile if you know what I mean.

 

Power wise in standard form they're very similar. Power delivery is very smooth and linear with the parallel turbos. There's not the kick of the 2nd turbo coming in which I missed when I first bought it. To be honest I was a little disappointed as I went to a standard GT-R from my BPU Supra which was running 1.2bar and went very well. It just didn't have the same grunt as the Supra.

 

You need to rev the RB26 to get the most from it, where as you can be quite lazy with the JZ and let the low down torque do the work. The R34 is heavier with all the 4wd gear but it doesn't feel heavy to drive at all, very nimble in fact. I have Nismo S-Tune suspension and it's great fun on twisty roads, you can really throw it into the corners. I feel an upgrade to Ohlin's is on the cards though to cope with the extra power it now has.

 

The thing that really hits you with the GT-R is just the endless grip. It's just unbelievable. Requires a different driving style to the Supra but once you adapt to it it's just so much fun. On the mountain roads I find myself barrelling into corners at silly speeds and the car just takes it in it's stride. I need to get it on the track to find it's limits, you need to drive like an absolute loon to find them on the road. In the wet there's no comparison between a GT-R and a Supra, the Supra just can't put the power down as well and RLTC (which I had) whilst very good isn't a substitute for the GT-R's Attessa system.

 

The GT-R brakes are rubbish. Like the J-Spec brakes on the Supra they really are a joke, but were a cost compromise from the factory. The build quality also isn't as good either, for example there isn't a nice "clunk" when you close the door or boot. But, the seats are far, far better and very supportive and you can actually fit people other than small children and dwarves in the back and stuff in the boot. The gearbox is nice and precise, and the steering feel is very good. The box isn't as strong as the Supra's Getrag though. Also ceramic turbos mean that if you turn up the boost, just like the Supra, it's a lottery when they'll let go...

 

Since buying the car I've had a lot of work done. A complete Mine's Stage 2 engine with 2530 turbos and the necessary, as well as Brembo brakes all round. I'm not sure exactly how much power it's making, when I asked the chief mechanic he sort of cocked his head to one side and said "Hmmmm, over 600PS. Doesn't matter, drives well! Good response! Very fast!". That's the truth, it goes like stink and with the VX-ROM it starts first time every time, and is very smooth and well behaved. No hassle around town, very sedate and quiet too with the titanium exhaust system. The engine has been built for response, and when you open it up and the turbos come on boost it changes from a quiet and well behaved car to a howling rev crazed animal. Sounds more like a big bike than a car, awesome in the various tunnels around Yokohama

 

The Supra is cheaper to modify to BPU, but when you're looking at more extensive modifications they're about the same I think. Both costs and arm and a leg !

 

The V-Spec II is the one to go for IMO. Late spec means a nicer interior in black as well as the carbon parts and extra features. The Nur has a stronger and smoother engine, but they're rarer and more expensive. Little point buying one if you're planning big modifications, better off selling the engine as gutting it is a waste.

 

I'm not interested in arguments about which car is better, I've owned both and really enjoy driving both. They're just different. I often miss the Supra, it was a great car but don't ever regret buying the GT-R. I'd do the same again.

 

Wicked write up, not at all biased. I must admit I do really like the supra and the drive of it, just really like the GTR as well.

 

I have arranged a drive in one, guy is pretty close to me, so are going to arrange a time late next week, for him to take me out for a spin and I will return the favour

[Guest 2JZ-GTE]

Nick - Your car in your signature looks amazing! It really makes me wish that it wasn't so hard to import one into the US.

[uzthedentist]

hi graham,

 

i have drove few R34 GTR and they are superb cars - can be used for any road conditions and at any time..

 

i have a dansih friend nicholas quiesa he has a 750 bhp r34 gtr full trim and he uses it all day- and does 10.2 sec quarter miles yet he uses it for shopping in too..

 

 

we can get them imported but (must be stock for the test in uk to pass)

 

cost are not cheap about 27k 30k on road for a very very nice example.

 

 

if you look on zele-international they have some nice r34 for sale but they are mint and command higher price.

 

 

the f1 test driver kiesa?

[NITO]

I had an R34 GTR V Spec II Nur, I prefer the Supra Nuff said!

[saboteur]

Nick, that was a fantastic write up. Brilliant.

That could possibly be my next car after the R34 GTR. Absolutely love the skyline. Everything about it!!

 

NITO: I'm very supprised by your comment. I think the R34 is in a different league to the supra. Better handling, looks, quality, etc...

[Mike B]

We have run a 34 in the family for 4-5 years now. Done quite a it of digging with RB motorsport who rebuilt the turbos to hybrids after the ceramics went pop and this is what he told us;

 

BPU ceramic to 1 bar only, 1.2 needs the stock wastegate enlarging, or you get big boost creep (what happened to us).

 

You can take it to 500 FWHP on the stock motor, but after that you need to go with a new headgasket for more,

 

and at 550 it needs a new bottom end.

 

Sups are cheaper to get to 600hp than skylines I recon.

 

We looked at a 32k 34 recently that was built at 580FWHP.

 

Prices are definately coming down a bit.

 

we ought ours for 32 5 years ago... it's immaculate, and probably worth 26 or so now. Depreciation has been fantastic.

 

very good car, but the twitchy 4ws system gives me the willies after driving the sup. Doesn't command the same level of technical driving ability but definately quicker in the twisties.

[grahamc]

We have run a 34 in the family for 4-5 years now. Done quite a it of digging with RB motorsport who rebuilt the turbos to hybrids after the ceramics went pop and this is what he told us;

 

BPU ceramic to 1 bar only, 1.2 needs the stock wastegate enlarging, or you get big boost creep (what happened to us).

 

You can take it to 500 FWHP on the stock motor, but after that you need to go with a new headgasket for more,

 

and at 550 it needs a new bottom end.

 

Sups are cheaper to get to 600hp than skylines I recon.

 

We looked at a 32k 34 recently that was built at 580FWHP.

 

Prices are definately coming down a bit.

 

we ought ours for 32 5 years ago... it's immaculate, and probably worth 26 or so now. Depreciation has been fantastic.

 

very good car, but the twitchy 4ws system gives me the willies after driving the sup. Doesn't command the same level of technical driving ability but definately quicker in the twisties.

 

Thanks for that, sounds pretty like what I have read on GTR.co.uk. Very good forum for skylines, friendly members, etc.

 

and what is the car like in the wet?