Faith Adopter Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Does anyone know how many hours labour a coolant change is please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Costs nothing and takes about 30mins...do it yourself you lazy monkey!! In all seriousness its really easy to do, but if you want to pay someone else if it takes more than an hour they shouldn't be near the car to start with. Most garages have a general hourly rate. Phone them to find out what it is. Toyota themselves should be about £50 an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Adopter Posted November 26, 2004 Author Share Posted November 26, 2004 I am reaching for the overalls as I type.... Thanks once again Alex PS don't suppose you went to billing in 2002 by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Nope not I never been... There is a tap on the bottom, passenger, engine side of the radiator which you can open to release all the fluid...or if you're like me and can't wait....undo the rad cap, remove/loosen the under tray and yank off the bottom hose. It will p1ss out of it from there...but will still take 20 mins to drain fully. Then reverse the process and add coolant (Toyota 4Life Red) once it's getting full slow down pouring it in to allow air to escape...fill to the brim, empty your expansion tank and fill it to the max line. Put all the caps etc back on. The bottom rad hose is on the drivers side. Run the engine till warm, making sure you've got the heater on in the car. Then shut off and leave for about 5-10mins to cool and de-presurrise (DO NOT EVER ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE RAD CAP AFTER JUST SHUTTING THE ENGINE OFF). Once the rad is cool enough to the touch you should be able to open it up but do it with care. Once open just check to see if it needs topping up. Take her for a run and check again after that. You'll probably hear the odd air lock go through the heater matrix in the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Killer Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 One addition - It is best to fill your coolant from the hose at the back of the motor. If you fill it through the radiator cap you will likely have bubbles. Filling it from the back gives you a much less chance of air pockets. I start the car and let it warm with the radiator cap off while filling up from the rear of the motor. This helps remove any air pockets while filling. Regards, Dusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 motor Is that "Engine" ! Dusty, what's American for Motor ( as in electric motor ) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazer Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by V8 Killer One addition - It is best to fill your coolant from the hose at the back of the motor Which hose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I'd guess he means the upper heater hose, right at the back of the engine above the cam cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Alex Holdroyd Costs nothing and takes about 30mins...do it yourself you lazy monkey!! In all seriousness its really easy to do, but if you want to pay someone else if it takes more than an hour they shouldn't be near the car to start with. Most garages have a general hourly rate. Phone them to find out what it is. Toyota themselves should be about £50 an hour. Its actually £70 an hour ++ VAT Alex Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Alex Holdroyd Nope not I never been... There is a tap on the bottom, passenger, engine side of the radiator which you can open to release all the fluid...or if you're like me and can't wait....undo the rad cap, remove/loosen the under tray and yank off the bottom hose. It will p1ss out of it from there...but will still take 20 mins to drain fully. Then reverse the process and add coolant (Toyota 4Life Red) once it's getting full slow down pouring it in to allow air to escape...fill to the brim, empty your expansion tank and fill it to the max line. Put all the caps etc back on. The bottom rad hose is on the drivers side. Run the engine till warm, making sure you've got the heater on in the car. Then shut off and leave for about 5-10mins to cool and de-presurrise (DO NOT EVER ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE RAD CAP AFTER JUST SHUTTING THE ENGINE OFF). Once the rad is cool enough to the touch you should be able to open it up but do it with care. Once open just check to see if it needs topping up. Take her for a run and check again after that. You'll probably hear the odd air lock go through the heater matrix in the dash. Thats a quick way to change about 3/4 of the fluid , there is also a tap on the rear of the block under the turbos , this is the block drain , otherwise the block stays full of the old coolant !!!!! Now is also a good time to flush your matrix if you think the heater is not as hot as it used to be , flush it both ways to remove any sludge or even better do that and before you start put some flushing agent in the rad and run the car a while , now is also the time to change the stat if your in doubt Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by V8 Killer One addition - It is best to fill your coolant from the hose at the back of the motor. If you fill it through the radiator cap you will likely have bubbles. Filling it from the back gives you a much less chance of air pockets. I start the car and let it warm with the radiator cap off while filling up from the rear of the motor. This helps remove any air pockets while filling. Regards, Dusty Dustys right , some cars can be a pain to bleed some are dead simple , another trick is to use a coke bottle , cut off the bottom and use it as a large funnel , wedge it in the rad and fill it to the top so it has some 'weight' pushing the coolant into the rad , periodiclly squeeze the top and bottom hose and repeat untill no bubbles are seen in the bottle , i got fed up with this and bought a neat tool that sucks all the air out of the system cerating a vacuum , you then open a tap and suck the coolant back in leaving no air in the system . BTW dont forget to leave the heater on hot when doing this Dude:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Yeah £76+vat per hr at my local dealership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Well mine £50 an hour so they rock... I've also been known to use the hose at the back...and stick a hose in it to flush out all the crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Killer Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood I'd guess he means the upper heater hose, right at the back of the engine above the cam cover. Correct. Regards, Dusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Killer Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by merckx Is that "Engine" ! Dusty, what's American for Motor ( as in electric motor ) ? Motor = Engine. Electric Motor = Electric Motor. Cheers, Dusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00b Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Hi, ok seems to be 2 diff camps here... 1, hose at back or 2, rad at front which way should i do it? where can you order the coolant from... i was looking around in halfords for a similar thing but i didnt buy anything (only halfords own coolant)... ta n00b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 That's up to you.I would have gone with the hose at the back option.Just did it myself yesterday as it happens. Go to your local Mr.T and get the fluid from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 You want the red (for J spec) forlife coolant, I think 2 X 5L is sufficient but not sure?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlam Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Both ways work ok it's just a little awkward doing the rear hose, and most dont undo the block pllug, unless you want a COMPLETE change,it just depends on how much time you want to spend changing the water system and how dirty you want to get. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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