Stevie Boy Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Hello everybody Peeps! Just wondering how people using Greddy E-01 boost controllers are getting on with them. I've got an E-manage installed so it's looking like a must for me, xmas coming i'm tryin not to chuck anymore cash at the Supe buts that's just soooooo difficult. After reading the thread on turbo life expectancy i've got it into my head i should maybe bring the boost down a little maybe just have a little more pre-set for overtakes/occasional ragging so i'm hoping the E-01 would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 I've got one hooked up to my Emanage, it's a very nice bit of kit. It's a very good boost controller in its own right and when hooked to the Emanage it's gadget central. I'm going to hook up a AEM wideband to mine, and my EGT gauge so it will log 3 hours worth of AFR, EGT, throttle position, rpm, boost and injector duty cycle. Then you can replay it in graph form, step through etc etc. Only drawback is the screen is pretty big, so finding a place for it could be hard. Mine is attached to a mobile phone mounting bracket that sticks out to the left of the heater controls. You'll need a restrictor ring to lower boost btw, and then turn it up again with the Profec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Boy Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Cheers Si, i'm thinking bigger the screen the better as Paul "Whifbitz" reckoned a downside to using it was trying to read all the info of the small screen where he prefered to use his lap top. I've got a restrictor plate/ring in the decats but boost is still at least 1.1bar i was thinking maybe a more standard 0.8-1bar max for normal use. I'd like to get an AEM wideband at some point too, is Exhaust Gas Temp a must to be looked at also Si? One other thing is there a need for a guage display with the WBO2 senser when running through the E-01 (is that best used just for logging the info and guage still req'd for clear display when driving??) Steve M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Originally posted by Stevie Boy One other thing is there a need for a guage display with the WBO2 senser when running through the E-01 (is that best used just for logging the info and guage still req'd for clear display when driving??) Steve M I'd be interested in the answer to this, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 The e-01 can clearly display three things at once. It would work fine with say Boost, Revs and A/FR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Yes that's right, you don't need a guage for the wideband, you connect it to the E01 with the optional external signal harness (which is a few wires on the end of a plug!) and then tell the E01 what voltage equates to what reading. I've got the AEM wideband with no display on order as it's cheaper than the one with the guage and I haven't got anywhere to put another guage anyway. I'll let you know how I get on with it when it arrives in a few weeks. You don't really need an EGT guage I would say if you have a wideband - I bought mine ages ago and it happens to be a Greddy guage so you can hook it up too. Mind you I still haven't had the sensor plumbed in yet! I would say when you're tuning a laptop would definitely be easier to use. The advantage of the E01 is that it's connected all the time so you can keep an eye on things and record logs any time without having to hook the laptop up every time. The E01 uses a SD card to store its data, so ideally you would be able to transfer its logs off onto a PC to look at later, but nobody seems to have managed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Boy Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 Very usful info guys, cheers. Let us know how you get on with the Wide Band kit Si, fancy sharing which one you got, from whom?? Guess it doesn't matter too much, there's only a handful of reasonably priced sensor manufacturers, just thought it say might be better to get 'whatever' for the sake of a few quid if you know what i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Originally posted by Stevie Boy Very usful info guys, cheers. Let us know how you get on with the Wide Band kit Si, fancy sharing which one you got, from whom?? Guess it doesn't matter too much, there's only a handful of reasonably priced sensor manufacturers, just thought it say might be better to get 'whatever' for the sake of a few quid if you know what i mean. I've gone for the AEM UEGO with no display (single channel) from MVP. It's a fair bit cheaper than the alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Thought I'd update this thread since I said I would when I'd hooked up my wideband. I bought the AEM UEGO with no display. I started off with it just hooked into the E01, but I have since wired it into the Emanage too, as I now have a laptop so I can log everything and produce Excel graphs etc. The other reason I hooked it up to the Emanage too is because the 0-5v output it not linear. With the E01 you can put in the voltage range and corresponding AFR value, but you can't put in a table of values. That means it's not going to give an accurate value. You'll see what I mean from the attached graph, the curve is the signal you get from the wideband and the red line is what the E01 will show. Basically if you're going to buy a wideband and hook it directly to an E01 you want the FJO one which can be set to output a linear signal (I think). So, I have it hooked to the E01 to give a basic indication and to the second airflow input on the Emanage as Ian C has. This involves hacking the map on the PC to make the software think you have a second airflow sensor and allow you to log it, which I figured out how to do. You can then use the Excel macro to convert the log file to a spreadsheet and use a translation table to get an accurate AFR graphed against other stuff. I think this is what Ian has done also (way ahead of me!), although I did it in a user unfriendly way! Hex editor anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I was just about to but an AEM UEGO wide band. After reading this I think I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Boy Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 I see thats put a spanner in the works, i was just about to set aside the funds for an AEM Wide band UEGO, so if i get one with the Controller LED Display is there still no suitable linear signal to hijack? Just thinking about it though, if AFR is a non-linear graph can this be displayed on the E-01 with a table of values? Is it a bit of a job to hack the E-Manage software, and have i read right that there'd be no way round getting an accurate AFR displayed on it, if this is the case would it be best to get one with a guage display also? Where did you source an AEM UEGO without the guage Si as i haven't seen anyone selling just that? Do Thor supply just the UEGO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Where did you source an AEM UEGO without the guage Si? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=355449&postcount=8 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Yeah, it's a bit of a pain. All you can do on the E01 is set the minimum and maximum voltage and the AFR values at each, there's no way of entering a table of conversions. What you really want is a wideband with a linear output, then you'd have no problem. You could look at the value displayed and convert it yourself to the correct value, or just display the voltage and convert it yourseld, but hardly ideal. It's not a problem if you connect it to the Emanage directly. What I did is take my map file and find the value that corresponds to the value of the dip switches on the Emanage (the ones you set to 740 for a Jspec supra). I changed that to the values for a Skyline (which has a 2nd airflow sensor). Then you can start up the software, load this hacked map in and use the logging facility as normal, only there is now a 2nd airflow input you can log. It's then not too hard to convert the log to a spreadsheet and graph the correct AFR value via a lookup table. This works so long as you don't bring up the main parameters dialog, which asks the Emanage what the dip switch values are again and throws up a dialog saying the values have changed. There's no reason to use that dialog though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I've PM'd you Simon I could do with a beta tester It looks like you've got the 3xxx series AEM UEGO, which comes with a module and an optional gauge? The 4xxx series has the translation hardware built into the gauge so if you've got one of those you have to run the gauge as it's got the electronics that convert the O2 sensor signal into a meaningful voltage. The table of AFRs to voltages is different between these two models as well. The 4 series is more linear, but I again suspect you have a 3 series as your stoich is at 4v, the 4 series it's at 2.5v. I prefer the 3 series as you get 4v worth of rich-to-stoich rather than 2.5, more resolution, but that doesn't mean the 4 series is valueless, it's perfectly good for tuning a car. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 [Thread Resurection] Thought I'd update this thread since I said I would when I'd hooked up my wideband. I bought the AEM UEGO with no display. I started off with it just hooked into the E01, but I have since wired it into the Emanage too, as I now have a laptop so I can log everything and produce Excel graphs etc. The other reason I hooked it up to the Emanage too is because the 0-5v output it not linear. With the E01 you can put in the voltage range and corresponding AFR value, but you can't put in a table of values. That means it's not going to give an accurate value. You'll see what I mean from the attached graph, the curve is the signal you get from the wideband and the red line is what the E01 will show. Basically if you're going to buy a wideband and hook it directly to an E01 you want the FJO one which can be set to output a linear signal (I think). I've just received an AEM gauge-type UEGO Controller (Model 30-4100) from mkivstore. It seems that the analog output on these IS linear According to the table in the manual 0.00 volts = 10.00 AFR 2.5v = 15 AFR 4.99v = 19.98 AFR (and lots of values in between but basically every increase of 0.16v = 0.31 AFR) So this should work like a champ for datalogging AFRs with the e01, right? I just need to get an E-01 External Signal Harness from somewhere. I haven't found anywhere over here that sells them yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 [Thread Resurection] I've just received an AEM gauge-type UEGO Controller (Model 30-4100) from mkivstore. It seems that the analog output on these IS linear According to the table in the manual 0.00 volts = 10.00 AFR 2.5v = 15 AFR 4.99v = 19.98 AFR (and lots of values in between but basically every increase of 0.16v = 0.31 AFR) So this should work like a champ for datalogging AFRs with the e01, right? I just need to get an E-01 External Signal Harness from somewhere. I haven't found anywhere over here that sells them yet though. Yep, the gauge ones are fine. I almost bought one of the add on gauges for mine just for that output but it was easier to get an Innovate one in the end. Can't help you with the signal harness, can mkivstore not get them? Otherwise Mohd in the US will send you one - bit of a pain and expense for just that though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Why can't Nic get you one Jake? Not too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Boy Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 [Thread Resurection] I've just received an AEM gauge-type UEGO Controller (Model 30-4100) from mkivstore. It seems that the analog output on these IS linear According to the table in the manual 0.00 volts = 10.00 AFR 2.5v = 15 AFR 4.99v = 19.98 AFR (and lots of values in between but basically every increase of 0.16v = 0.31 AFR) So this should work like a champ for datalogging AFRs with the e01, right? I just need to get an E-01 External Signal Harness from somewhere. I haven't found anywhere over here that sells them yet though. Got my E-01 External Signal Harness from mohdparts.com, as someone has mentioned earlier, relatively inexpensive. Instructions in Jap but translated wire assignments are available on his website i believe, also might be on Emanageusers site as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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