Batmax Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hi I Want to buy a quality Single Turbo kit and I think in these two now PHR Stage 2+ Dbb vs HKS T51R KAI what is your advice ? Also I need to know what I need to buy more parts if you can descrive all parts ist's betther for me tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hi I Want to buy a quality Single Turbo kit and I think in these two now PHR Stage 2+ Dbb vs HKS T51R KAI what is your advice ? Also I need to know what I need to buy more parts if you can descrive all parts ist's betther for me tanks. Hi, a search for single builds on here will give you a better understanding of what is required, either of these turbos will require an ECU upgrade, fuelling upgrade, Clutch upgarde perhaps looking at engine internals as well as these are pushing big power I remember HOMER posting this list, it is quite an eye opener ! Here is the breakdown of the MINIMUM cost you can do a conversion to a BL T67dbb. I've searched around and think I've found the cheapest suppliers on all parts. Some comments on these costs: 1) It assumes you are starting from a basic TT 6spd (auto will be much more) 2) The dbb is only around $300 more expensive to complete than the non dbb version and only $400 more than a T61. 3) This assumes the installation is done by a professional and that £800 labour is charged (It will be more if every item is fitted by a professional) 4) You don't get caught by IR on the import from the US Here's the list in case you don't have Excel: BL T67dbb single kit Boostlogic T67dbb turbo Boostlogic Manifold Boostlogic downpipe (3inch) Boostlogic mid pipe (3inch) HKS 50mm Wastegate K&N Breather 2x 1 1/2 inch silicon connectors 1x 4inch silicon connector 4inch AEM ait filter 4inch intake pipe 2inch screamer pipe 2 1/2 inch IC pipe Oil feed and return kit 3inch v-band clamp Nuts and bolts for turbo and sreamer pipe 6x jubliee clips (various sizes $4,049.00 £2,730.24 Additional conversion parts Boostlogic Water line kit £150.00 HKS SSQV $205.95 £138.87 HKS aluminium flange £35.00 3/16in T piece (x3) (for boost lines) £8.21 3/16in boost hose (5m) £15.50 Hose support 0.25 ID (x4) £3.62 Exhaust Wrap (6m) £9.80 Wrap ties (x6) £6.00 Water neck male weld on flange £5.95 Fueling Aeromotive FPR $147.00 £99.12 Walbro fuel pump $125.00 £84.29 Power Enterprise 800cc drop-in £450.00 Injector flow testing £90.00 FPR gauge £15.00 Fuel hose -6 (1m) £4.00 Breathers 1/2in braided breather hose (0.5m) £10.53 -10 hose finisher (x2) £11.70 Electronics Blitz SBC ID-III Boost controller $529.00 £356.70 2.5 bar MAP Sensor £50.00 Gauges AEM UEGO gauge $279.90 £188.74 Greddy 60mm boost gauge $192.00 £129.47 ECU PowerFC ECU £500.00 Drivetrain Southbend Kevlar clutch £450.00 Intercooler Greddy 3 row FMIC $1,469.00 £990.55 Service items Silkolene ProS 15w50 11 litres £120.00 Toyota Oil filter (x2) £17.37 Sump plug gasket (x2) £1.83 NGK BCPR7ES (x12) £28.00 Toyota red coolant (10 litres) £32.50 Exhaust gasket £92.00 Gasket paste £4.95 Blue sealant £3.95 Water neck gasket £2.45 Fuel filter £31.95 Labour Single Fitting £800.00 Clutch fitting £120.00 Mapping £250.00 Welding (Aluminium) £20.00 Taxes & delivery from MVP Guestimated & assumes you don’t get caught by IR £400.00 Possible extra parts Gearbox oil Axle oil New underpants Total £8,458.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 PHR stage 3 is equiv of HKS T51R. Stage 2 is gooing to be smaller and spool faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Nice write up! Alot easier easier for us non single guys to understand. Anyone got a spare £8,458.29 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Buy a proven car with it already done!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Nice write up! Alot easier easier for us non single guys to understand. Anyone got a spare £8,458.29 ??? And written correctly as well, cut corners and you will get stung somewhere along the line:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim1978 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Buy a proven car with it already done!!! Agree. PHR Stage 2+ (67mm) is one size smaller than the Kai (70mm). The Kai is quite old too and spools pretty late...but the sound of the Kai is unbeatable. check this out that is the only reason i would go with a kai....otherwise phr stage 3 hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshBhp Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I now a member who has the PHR Stage 2+ kit and guess what he's changing to a HKS T51 Kai BB turbo kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshBhp Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Agree. PHR Stage 2+ (67mm) is one size smaller than the Kai (70mm). The Kai is quite old too and spools pretty late...but the sound of the Kai is unbeatable. check this out that is the only reason i would go with a kai....otherwise phr stage 3 hands down How late does it spool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 I want a turbo kit so you are tell me that the Hks T51 Kai is betther waht means BB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshBhp Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I want a turbo kit so you are tell me that the Hks T51 Kai is betther waht means BB ? The Kai is none ball bearing. The new KAi BB is ball bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 I don't understand these you have a post in 2005 about that turbo how you say he is new product ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 AFAIK a kai 51 is supposed to be a higher top ender power turbo than a t67 of any guise. AFAIK a kai 51 will pop up 650 or more horses and a t67 will pop up 600 ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 im running 712 at 1.4 bar at the moment with my T51R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 I will choose PHR tanks my friends I think for a road drive is one of the best turbo kit's, tanks for the helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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