Guest mathias_h Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 First of all, I would just like to say hello to all of you. New here! I recently fell in love with the supra, and is now trying to buy my own. Earlier today I looked at one for Sale, a manuall TT ´96 . The car itself looked very nice, well taken care of, etc, etc. But there is two problems (I think). The car is just inported from Japan, and the guy claims he didn't get any papers with it. He tells me thar the Japanese use to keep this stuff digitaly stored. The second problem is that he claims thet it is from 1996, but in the car there is no passanger airbag (not sure about drivers airbag) and there is a electrical drivers seat (I have read on this forum that it should be airbags on the ´96, and no electrical seats). The seat rely don't worries me, he told me that he replaced it 'cos of cigaret burnmarks in the seat, which i find a reasonable explenation, but the airbags and the lack of paper worries me. What du you think? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 no papers = run a mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mathias_h Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just posted on a Swedish forum, and the guys there says that I shouldent worry about the papers, use to bee like that with Japan imports. But still, the fact that there is no airbags, and that he claims that it is a 96 yers modell worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Even if you had the papers they'd be in Japanese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 96/97 is borderline facelift. sometimes the line is vague. If it has a vvti engine and the side indicators are on the bumper and not on the wing. and it has 5 dial faces and not 3 then its facelift and should have a passenger airbag. But the "all stored on computer" thing is bull. How come he hasnt got anything at all? not even any printouts? My car is on its 3rd uk owner still had all the import documents in japanese... You rarely get a log book with jap imports. infact ive never seen one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_blackman Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'd listen to Jurgen mate as he is an importer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just posted on a Swedish forum, and the guys there says that I shouldent worry about the papers, use to bee like that with Japan imports. But still, the fact that there is no airbags, and that he claims that it is a 96 yers modell worries me. thats bad advice.... you need jap de reg docs and translation papers (what ever country your in).. unless you want an illegal car ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm not sure when they started fitting the passenger airbag as standard, was it optional on earlier cars? (It's on the EPC from 93) The vin plate will enable youto identify when the car was built. If you have doubts it's always best to walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 no papers = run a mile Mathias I would ignore the advice you have been given and listen to Jurgen (he is an importer, so should know what is what). There are a lot of Supras available out there, don't take the risk. If you can get the Frame and Model number of the car we can check what year of manufacture it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 no papers = run a mile What papers is this then? I don't have any Jap Import papers for either of my Supras, does that mean I wouldn't be able to sell either of these cars to a foreign buyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 96/97 is borderline facelift. sometimes the line is vague. If it has a vvti engine and the side indicators are on the bumper and not on the wing. and it has 5 dial faces and not 3 then its facelift and should have a passenger airbag. A 96/97 car couldn't have a VVTi engine, they were first fitted in 97/98 Supras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mathias_h Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 The seller has papers from import etc. So it is a legal car, no problems there, I was talking about logbok or reciepts from service. I tok a photo of the model number (VIN-plate?) and that says: Model: E-JZA80-ALFVZ Engine: 2JZ-GTE 2997 Frame No. JZA80-0034720 Color: 199 Trim: FC20 Trans/axle: V160 B03B Plant/Built: A22 The Encoder from this forum tells me that it is a SZ or RZ-s From 94. Where there ever built a RZ-s in 94? The car is a TT, but it would be real shady if the VIN-plate says different. Can you help me with what this menas? The car itself is well taken care of, in good condition, standard Wheels, Standard Exuast etc. It apears to never have been tuned. So I would actualy feel quite comfortable with bying the car as if it wasent for the fact that he tells me its a 96 and it appears to be a 94. Thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 VIN = Vehicle Identification Number Most japanese imports don't come with log book or receipts. 1996 production date Model - RZS 6spd manual Colour - Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 The only paperwork I got with mine was Service record (Jap and english) MOT certs and the paid invoice from when it was imported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I had everything with mine, service records auction sheets even the original purchase bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Should be at the very least de reg papers as Jurgen said, and if hes any good with records the Bill of lading aswell, both will have the chassis number them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 What papers is this then? I don't have any Jap Import papers for either of my Supras, does that mean I wouldn't be able to sell either of these cars to a foreign buyer? no by his thread i though he had no paperwork what so ever...as long as the jap paperwork or v5 is there then its ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thank fook for that! You had me worried there Jurgen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thank fook for that! You had me worried there Jurgen me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mathias_h Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thank you Nic, very usefull information. But the lack of airbags still worries me, according to this http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=59334 the 96 is supposed to have airbags, or have i missread? One again, thanks for the help guys. When I drove the supra yesterday I was suprised how nice it was, Can't wait to get one of my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 The guy who imported mine said the history sometimes turns up after the car has been imported, most of the time it doesn't, and he said they are often just left in the car when they are in the auction? Mine came with the auction docs and some other jap docs but no history, also a bimta thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 But the lack of airbags still worries me, according to this http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=59334 the 96 is supposed to have airbags, or have i missread? Why does that worry you? The VIN number confirms it as being made in March 96. As an early facelift it may well have some parts that were pre-facelift. It's not unheard of to see early an facelift one with pre-facelift wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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