Steven Cordiner Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Could be worth attempting to brace the manifold or perhaps reinforce it somehow. I think some of the Honda crowd try this. For the money you cant really go wrong in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Originally posted by Steven Cordiner Could be worth attempting to brace the manifold or perhaps reinforce it somehow. I think some of the Honda crowd try this. For the money you cant really go wrong in all honesty. I am going to bung mine to the welders near me to check out the quality - and amend as necessary - £50? Then fit a full through system with a flexy end to try and take some of the stress out of the engine movement and then fabricate a bracket If that all fine then for £250 you cant go wrong - I mean Dude is right - for long speed runs then it is prob not going to last the test of time - but otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Cordiner Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 I'm almost in a similar boat. I'm getting a stainless steel top mount manifold made for my MR2. My concern is engine movement when drag racing. So I'm considering putting solid urethane engine mount inserts on - it'll eliminate engine flex but will take alot more vibration into the cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E I am going to bung mine to the welders near me to check out the quality - and amend as necessary - £50? Then fit a full through system with a flexy end to try and take some of the stress out of the engine movement and then fabricate a bracket If that all fine then for £250 you cant go wrong - I mean Dude is right - for long speed runs then it is prob not going to last the test of time - but otherwise... You need the flexi in the DP not at the end..... Please share your ideas on this bracket you are getting fabricated??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 You know what I mean - actually planned to be encorporated into my new complete exhaust system Let see when it's on about the bracket fixing / welding etc - where / what / how! But you will deffo be the first to know m8 - thanks for the concern...! Products have already been dispatched - have a FEDEX tracking number etc - good email correspondance and fast service - so far so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 It is a concern Paul, wouldnt want you going into this half cocked or anything. Please dont hesitate to ask if you need technical input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 got to be worth giving it a go for the money now the dollar rate is good again. it should be a lot easier to work on if you needed to take it off. there is a lot of space unlike standard twin set up. if paul is going to give it a go we should show him a bit of support. if it dont work out its only his time and money he is wasting. would like to see some pics and a write up when you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Usmann A Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 got to be worth giving it a go for the money now the dollar rate is good again. it should be a lot easier to work on if you needed to take it off. there is a lot of space unlike standard twin set up. if paul is going to give it a go we should show him a bit of support. I agree. Only once its tried we willl know, I have been told they are not up to scratch from a few turbo honda in the US also, but for the price, it isnt going to hurt. Unless, you damage your turbo or gate .. (hopfully this wont happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 PAULE, is it £200 or £300 for the manifold? you started off saying £300 now its gone down. cant the cracking be solved by having a bracket fabricated from the manifold down to the block? to take the stress from the welds? my dads a welder, used to work on concorde (no comments:) ) ,rolls royce etc so any fabrication work needed would be easy for me. TERRY, would a boostlogic turbo fit this manifold? cheers ...lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Originally posted by leett TERRY, would a boostlogic turbo fit this manifold? cheers ...lee Possibly, but what about the DP/MP wastegate, IC pipework. intake etc. Seriously, I am not sure what design this manifold is based on either? Really sure nothing will be saved in the long run but Paul is apparently loaded so let him try it out. Seriously though, I wish him luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 anyone know the WG it uses?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Originally posted by leett cant the cracking be solved by having a bracket fabricated from the manifold down to the block? to take the stress from the welds? my dads a welder, used to work on concorde (no comments:) ) ,rolls royce etc so any fabrication work needed would be easy for me. The trouble is thermal expansion and torque flexing. The torque flexing (the act of the engine moving when under load) is easily avoided by putting the support bracket on the engine itself so that the whole assembly moves. The thermal flexing is nastier though - you don't know what direction and how far the turbo will move as the manifold heats up, and your support bracket will need to move in this unknown direction while still supporting the weight of the turbo If it's a solid mount, you could have the manifold crack in a matter of minutes rather than a couple of years as the manifold expands but is help solidly at both ends... I've thought about this and I reckon something like a rubber/fabric exhaust hanger around the intake side of the turbo would do it, to what degree it would help I don't know and it would look as ugly as fuck no matter how you tried to dress it up... -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Paid for mine Wednesday and emailed him a couple of times but heard nothing in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by GeordieSteve Paid for mine Wednesday and emailed him a couple of times but heard nothing in return Holiday over there m8 - expect a long weekend break for the states:thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C ... I've thought about this and I reckon something like a rubber/fabric exhaust hanger around the intake side of the turbo would do it, to what degree it would help I don't know and it would look as ugly as fuck no matter how you tried to dress it up... -Ian Bit like the HKS Dragger exhaust hanger perhaps? Would require collar with rod (thereby allowing lateral movement too), rubber style hanger and hook on main body Once here we can check it out:thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Holiday over there m8 - expect a long weekend break for the states:thumbs: Cheers bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 found this on supraforums of a clone manifold off ebay $450 http://3kgt.bowtiecrawler.com/eugenealbums/album06/P1010021_001.jpg http://3kgt.bowtiecrawler.com/eugenealbums/album06/P1010022_001.jpg HorsePower Freaks CLONE manifold $450 off ebay fitted with a 77 turbo. that turbo looks big and heavy. is it the same one in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by MONKEYmark found this on supraforums of a clone manifold off ebay $450 http://3kgt.bowtiecrawler.com/eugenealbums/album06/P1010021_001.jpg http://3kgt.bowtiecrawler.com/eugenealbums/album06/P1010022_001.jpg HorsePower Freaks CLONE manifold $450 off ebay fitted with a 77 turbo. that turbo looks big and heavy. is it the same one in this thread? The one we are looking at is much smaller - that is bleedin huuuuge m8! No lag there then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E The one we are looking at is much smaller - that is bleedin huuuuge m8! No lag there then! hehehe you obsessed with lag. just change down a gear you lazy fooker. that pics was just for example of the cheap manifold with a big turbo. i cant see a problem if you putting a pea shooter turbo on it. its worth a try to see if it holds out ok. you got a new supra for a project car to test things out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by MONKEYmark you got a new supra for a project car to test things out? I fecking hate lag m8 - might as well buy a fiesta! Lets just se what I can get from japan in January to test it all on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E I fecking hate lag m8 - might as well buy a fiesta! Lets just se what I can get from japan in January to test it all on!! is that when they have the JANUARY sales LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Still no luck with having mine sent out Spoke to him today asking if he had received my payment (I paid Wednesday last week) and he replied "ok, How did you pay ?". Have you got yours through yet Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 All arrived today (actually would have been yesterday but I was out!) Had a quick look (well you would wouldn't you!) and its full of turbos and manifolds and other bits!!! All as per picture really - looks fine and the smaller turbo is about the same size as a T71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Does it look like decent kit? Take it we should expect some big lag from this kit? Is the welding ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by GeordieSteve Does it look like decent kit? Take it we should expect some big lag from this kit? Is the welding ok? Will take the manifold to be checked - looks OK - welds neat and smooth inside and out Turbo doesn't look too huge (pic attached) - certainly DO NOT get the big one that comes with their other kit - load of **** Loads of other bits - but too much to do for now to go into! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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