tDR Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Mark, there have been several issues with SS Autochrome manifolds for S13's (not fitting, cracking, poor design etc.) - have a look over on sxoc.com That pic is of an SR20DET manifold and engine btw, UK S13's came with the CA18DET engine. Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by ThunDeR Mark, there have been several issues with SS Autochrome manifolds for S13's (not fitting, cracking, poor design etc.) - have a look over on sxoc.com That pic is of an SR20DET manifold and engine btw, UK S13's came with the CA18DET engine. Cheers, Brian. ok mate but £94 he mentions uk ones too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by ThunDeR Mark, there have been several issues with SS Autochrome manifolds for S13's (not fitting, cracking, poor design etc.) - have a look over on sxoc.com Isues appear to be mainly with it not fitting the ABS (something to do with LHD and RHD?) and wrong fitment - the cracking due to it requiring an extra bracket - look at that thing! LOL! The increased SS quality and lifetime guarantee offered on the JZA-80 seemed a good sales point - although their customer PR is crap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Like others, the lifetime guarantee is worth a w**k IMHO. If you are happy taking the manifold of, send back to the US, waiting Months for it's return, then it may be an option. The wall thickness also plays an important part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by MONKEYmark ok mate but £94 he mentions uk ones too. £94 down the drain if it doesn't fit or if you cut it, rotate it and weld it to fit then even more money down the drain when they crack. I personally would steer clear of SS Autochrome stuff after reading all the problems and about their piss poor customer service when it came to returns or even taking feedback. One of the staff was on SXOC and basically told everyone to go do one Bri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Isues appear to be mainly with it not fitting the ABS (something to do with LHD and RHD?) and wrong fitment - the cracking due to it requiring an extra bracket - look at that thing! LOL! The increased SS quality and lifetime guarantee offered on the JZA-80 seemed a good sales point - although their customer PR is crap!! Paul - there was 2 versions of the S13 CA18DET manifold offered, the 1st was an absolutely crap design and would see no performance gain or benefit, and there were also difficulties with fitting. Then they basically copied the yashio factory manifold one of the traders on sxoc sent them which was a better design but turned out didn't clear the ABS on ABS cars and also seems very prone to cracking. Some members on sxoc also ordered the mk2 manifold through ebay and were sent the crappy mk1 manifold. When they contacted SS Autochrome they were told to sell it on privately in the UK to get their money back and order another!?!?!?! In fairness, the 2JZ manifold does look decent value for money but time will tell when people get hold of them and run them for a few months. Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Have you got any links to the SXOC problems with SS Autochrome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Look a few posts down on the second of the Links Paul posted earlier... Looks a tad worrying! Originally posted on Supra Forums by Full Race Geoff this manifold is manufactured by meng header http://www.mengheader.com/ for obx, ss autochrome and all the other ebay sellers. They are notorious for cracks. Not only cracks but MANY honda useres have literally had their turbos FALL OFF the car at speed, wastegates fall off on the highway, etc If you want to see why i can take a picture of the welds and show you the stress risers that are due to an improper robotic weld which cause the cracks. Also the material of choice is std 304, not a low carbon 304 (304L) so if you purchase one of these things, i strongly recommend not installing it. show it to your friends, but please dont ever use it. ... you get what you pay for ... __________________ http://www.full-race.com turbocharger engineering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Originally posted by Terry S Have you got any links to the SXOC problems with SS Autochrome? Hi Terry, Have a look at these threads: http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=112675&highlight=autochrome http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=117912&highlight=autochrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 At the end of the day you could go buy another manifold and the rest of the kit would still be a bargain price (I bloody hope!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Reading through they do seem a fitment problem on the SX due to the ABS fitting - no doubt they didn't cover themselves in glory on this or their customer care after! The manifold weight also seems to have caused one to crack in a particular place and a support is required - mind you looking at that SX header it looks like spaghetti junction! Not suprised! Lets see what arrives and get it fitted and what comes to pass - at least we will have two to compare - and then there will be an objective test of these once and for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 We'll show them Paul... we'll have some of the fastest most explosive Supras in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted on Supra Forums by Full Race Geoff this manifold is manufactured by meng header http://www.mengheader.com/ for obx, ss autochrome and all the other ebay sellers. They are notorious for cracks. Not only cracks but MANY honda useres have literally had their turbos FALL OFF the car at speed, wastegates fall off on the highway, etc If you want to see why i can take a picture of the welds and show you the stress risers that are due to an improper robotic weld which cause the cracks. Also the material of choice is std 304, not a low carbon 304 (304L) so if you purchase one of these things, i strongly recommend not installing it. show it to your friends, but please dont ever use it. ... you get what you pay for ... __________________ http://www.full-race.com turbocharger engineering As a great man once said 'you pay cheap you pay twice' Turbines coming out of exhausts we can cope with but whole turbos falling off on motorways etc is beyond a joke !!!!! I can just see the interview in Jap Performance mag , 'Well i would have beaten Ronnie in the final but my new GT45 DBB seems to have fallen off !!!!! could you give me a hand to look for it ???? (Matt H leaps forward to be told what the F**k do you think your doing !!) !!!!' Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Def get what you pay for m8! I am sure that they wont be perfect - but even Arnout had his SP crack! If there is a proper flexi - joint on the downpipe and a bracket this might give it a chance Am keeping an open mind until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Def get what you pay for m8! I am sure that they wont be perfect - but even Arnout had his SP crack! If there is a proper flexi - joint on the downpipe and a bracket this might give it a chance Am keeping an open mind until then... LMAO, this from the man who's body kit slogan is: " You pay cheap you pay twice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by Terry S LMAO, this from the man who's body kit slogan is: " You pay cheap you pay twice" Too true - and thats why I'm trying one out m8 - and if it is shit then at least no one else will fall into the trap of ordering one! I, at least, am keeping an open mind on an untested prioduct - why you so worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by GeordieSteve We'll show them Paul... we'll have some of the fastest most explosive Supras in the UK A nice thought m8 - not sure that it will happen, however never seen so many people so worried about me spending £200 in my life m8! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Too true - and thats why I'm trying one out m8 - and if it is shit then at least no one else will fall into the trap of ordering one! I, at least, am keeping an open mind on an untested prioduct - why you so worried? Not worried at all mate, just find your double standards funny ( remembering those Body Kit threads). Chill, and let us know how your testing programme goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Only prob is that it will take a year or so possibly to crack as a lot of the prob is the heating up and cooling down between Winebars !!!! Dude:flame Dev We could allways have a road trip to Malaga and back dude , i'll drive and that should get some heat in it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by Terry S Not worried at all mate,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by dude Only prob is that it will take a year or so possibly to crack as a lot of the prob is the heating up and cooling down between Winebars !!!! it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Originally posted by Paul E Stop using that smilie Paul, you are the most guilty person on the BBS LOL Chill, and learn to weld, you'll need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Cordiner Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Hi chaps, Masterpower is a brazilian turbo manufacturer http://www.masterpower.com.br/eng_intro.htm I actually have one of their T3 turbos waiting to fit to my MR2. The quality looks good. I've taken it apart next to an HKS/Garrett T04R and the machine work seems like quality. I have heard bad things about the ssautochrome manifolds for a number of cars. I'd steer clear for a turbo application. The NA manifolds apparantly have worked pretty well for NA MR2's. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Thanks Steve, great info. Sure the turbo will be fine , as long as it has been properly selected to match the 2JZ-GTE engine. You can't just buy any old turbo and bolt it on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Paid for mine yesterday and I'm willing to give it a try. I'll get some opinions of the quality of the manifold and report back. At the end of the day if I need to get another manifold made up locally I'll still save money on the full kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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