AJI Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Was talking away to a work collegue this morning and happened to mention the word 'jock' as a 'taking the mick' out of a fellow worker as he is scottish. We use it all the time as he also calls me various names in jest etc. Now, a recent starter emailed me saying she overheard me calling this guy 'jock' and told me not to blert racism over the office as she found it offensive !?!?!? My understanding of 'race' is that mainly europeans are white caucasian, where as the middle-east is mainly asian, africa is mainly african etc. etc. When did Scottich people (and Welsh, French, Irish, Spanish etc.) start becoming a saparate race to us English ?? It is a long standing English tradition to take the pi$$ out of our neighbouring countries.... the french, the Welsh etc. etc. (all in a jesting mannour of course, nothing too offensive),.... but some people like to bring out the racist card on everything these days ! What are others opinions on this ? I'm English born and bread but my young nephew is mixed race, I'm sure further down a particular branch of my family tree there's bound to be some scottish or Welsh in there somewhere..... but why are a lot of people these days confusing Nationalities with Races ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Tell her to mind her own business - it's a nickname is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 The Name Jock is just a friendly way of referring to the scottish. Does this idiot of a colleague of yours think that calling someone a Geordie or a scoucer is racist? as it's (by her thinking) the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Carefully apologise and explain you didn't mean to upset her gentle feminine feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Then slap her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eve Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Then slap her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Perhaps she hasn't got anything better to do with her time, some people just like to moan, and take PC to new lows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Wave your dick in her face and tell her to shut up or suck. I can't be sure that you won't get fired though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallace9 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 If I called someone an english b*****d then it would be considered racism. It dosn't matter that we are all brittish. Being offensive to someone because of their nationality is the same as being offensive about their colour. I worked in england for a few years though and many people called me jock. I didn't take it as an insult but I do know many scots thats don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bloody new starter upstarts, tell her to get the teas in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 If I called someone an english b*****d then it would be considered racism. It dosn't matter that we are all brittish. Being offensive to someone because of their nationality is the same as being offensive about their colour. I worked in england for a few years though and many people called me jock. I didn't take it as an insult but I do know many scots thats don't like it. I wouldn't see the 'english b*****d' comment as being racism at all. Having a different nationality is totally different to being a different race surely. Race is genetic and a family thing whereas nationality is just the country where you were born. Or the country name you decide to put on your passport etc. I emailed her back by the way stating that nationality is not a race. Not got a reply back yet. I thought that waving my 'package' in her face as suggested by RedM may not have been the best approach. Wallace - this guy in my office, we've always had friendly banter such as this, .... it comes from the game of rugby when England and Scotland play each other. We were simply talking about the up coming rugby worruld cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Carefully apologise and explain you didn't mean to upset her gentle feminine feelings. Then slap her. You two should become a double act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Was talking away to a work collegue this morning and happened to mention the word 'jock' as a 'taking the mick' out of a fellow worker as he is scottish. We use it all the time as he also calls me various names in jest etc. Now, a recent starter emailed me saying she overheard me calling this guy 'jock' and told me not to blert racism over the office as she found it offensive !?!?!? My understanding of 'race' is that mainly europeans are white caucasian, where as the middle-east is mainly asian, africa is mainly african etc. etc. When did Scottich people (and Welsh, French, Irish, Spanish etc.) start becoming a saparate race to us English ?? It is a long standing English tradition to take the pi$$ out of our neighbouring countries.... the french, the Welsh etc. etc. (all in a jesting mannour of course, nothing too offensive),.... but some people like to bring out the racist card on everything these days ! What are others opinions on this ? I'm English born and bread but my young nephew is mixed race, I'm sure further down a particular branch of my family tree there's bound to be some scottish or Welsh in there somewhere..... but why are a lot of people these days confusing Nationalities with Races ? It's all p.c bullshit, tell her to f**k off as you find her eavesdropping and motormouth offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I'd tell her to mind her own business, and that your mate couldn't give a shit so why should she? Buy her a Bonzi tree for her desk with a note around the trunk "hug me if your speshul". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallace9 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I understand that it was just banter and as I said it personally dosn't bother me in the slightest but nationality does come under racism. pat and mick jokes for example are technically racist. Most irish people won't be offended by them but some might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Wave your dick in her face and tell her to shut up or suck. I can't be sure that you won't get fired though. Christ! Are there really people like this with nothing else to worry about. I'd tell your "jock" mate and see what he says! I must admit that it's a phrase that I don't use but I can sort of understand someone being offended if you didn't know them, at worst it's just a bit over familiar! Definitely not racist though! I would just buy her a dildo and tell her to go and f*ck herself and stop earwigging!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I would just buy her a dildo and tell her to go and f*ck herself and stop earwigging!! H. DAM RIGHT!! you should hear the stuff the welshies call us when they come down to our unit, its normally the word english followed by a PROPER swear word, its friendly banter! political correctness gone made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Jesus, nosey women in offices annoy the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Report her to HR (personnel) for insinuating that you're a racist. Tell them you find it offensive being classed as such. See what they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 what does your mate think? is he botherd that you call him Jock? i am in the army you should here half the things people get called in the troop, we have people from all over the country and the first thing they get when they arrive is a nick name, normally from where they come from untill a proper one can be sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 these include jock, taff, geordie, paddy, oz, caffa christ can you imagine the trouble we would have if all these got offended!! its not racist by any means, just common practise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 caffa do you get many south africans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 do you get many south africans? got 2 in MT, brothers they are, the funniest guys i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 The problems start when you call someone 'P@ki', again it's relating to the country of origin as in jock, paddy etc, is this now not racist then? I don't get all this PC bollocks tbh? Seems to apply to those who want to play the card and gain from it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 got 2 in MT, brothers they are, the funniest guys i know. when you see them call one of them a do-worst. you need to say it fast as its all one word. thats not how its spelt but its the way you can pronounce it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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