Current issues with shootings / stabbings etc

[michael]

A true indication that the country is getting worse or a well formulated, government run, media campaign to make the citizens angry so they can pass new laws?

 

Maybe a combination of the 2?

 

Personally I hope it's the second one, I'd like to see these scumbags getting what they derserve.

[Thorin]

Bit of a controversial post to make considering your infraction status isn't it?

 

Probably the former.

[michael]

Bit of a controversial post to make considering your infraction status isn't it?

 

Depends who reads it and what mood they are in at the time.

[lui]

It's sickening now nearly every day on the news you here about another person shot / stabbed.

Especially with the latest of a 11 year old being at the end of a bullet & losing his life while out playing a game of football.

Bring back capital punishment i say that way people doing these nasty crimes might think twice before committing them knowing of what will happen to them once court.

About time the law changes & put a stop to all this happening. otherwise wont be long before all our kids will be frightened to go out just in case some mishap happens & in fear of there lives.

The government needs to make changes right away before this country gets out of hand.

Well there's my views

[Pete]

Bring back the death penalty! Burn them all!

[Havard]

The country is going down the toilet! All the issues over tougher laws, ID cards etc are being diluted by scumbags and do gooders diluting the true issues!!

 

I would put people in prison for a LOT of offences. Things like drugs, criminal damage, burglary, theft (basically anything that is truly dishonest). Oh but the prisons are full and building new ones is expensive!

 

Why are prisons expensive? Because they are full of TV's, pool tables, complex heating systems etc. Answer!, build low class, concrete block prisons with very little in the way of confort, ie bog basin, bed end of!! 1 hour of exercise and then back to soiltary confinement!!

 

Can't do that because it breaches human rights legislation.....

 

Human rights protects the few who might be treated badly for basically being a cock in the first place. Meanwhile the majority of hardworking, honest people run the risk of being stabbed and shot, whilst gangs of thugs take over the country!!

 

Rant over!

 

H.

[lui]

Bring back the death penalty! Burn them all!

 

If some no good for person takes away a innocent life for no reason at all same should happen to him in a painfull way too, why should he be locked up clothed & fed for many years costing us thuosands they should be made a example of to let others know what to expect when found out & 95% of criminals committing serious crimes are caught.

Guns & knives are nearly becoming & every day event now in the news + papers so sad

[marbleapple]

Guns & knives are nearly becoming & every day event now in the news + papers so sad

 

Is it just me though but are the media making a massive issue about it? In one hand they say loads of peeps are being killed etc but then very quickly show a graph which shows that killings etc are at an all time low....

[smiles181]

The british goverment are to scared of what people think. In my opinion if someone get scentenced life then they should get life none of this "well for good behaviour we will let u out in 15 yrs".

Its all a load of Crap.

[Bobbeh]

My friend was on the news last night with regard to the shootings in Letchworth - its all good fun around here.. the garden city 'hood'

[MrHanky]

I am always in two minds about capital punishment, death penalty etc. On one hand there is (in my opinion) no point in giving killers / rapists / paedophiles a second chance. If they did the crime(s) then they deserve the worst. But on the odd occasion where someone may cockup and an innocent person may be convicted I always have to think, is this the right solution.

 

Either way life in prison should be completely sh1te and not some kind of holiday camp where human beings deserve to be treated like human beings. I remember where I used to live as a kid, we had quite a few break ins to our shed etc. To have your bike stolen as a kid was gutting. Especially when I thought about how my mum had worked so hard on her own to pay for these things.

 

hmmm, still thinking about this one. It is a very difficuly subject when you consider different scenarios.

 

With regards to Michael's original question, a bit of both IMO. Don't know if its me getting old or something but the youth of today mainly seem like little scumbags (damn I sound like my late grandma ).

 

Mark

[Daston]

heard this morning that there was a pursuit and the police were fired on! That does not happen down here! Honestly they need to do something, employ judge dredd or make a super prison in the middle of a desert and send all the convicts there or create massive penal legions or send them to mars I dont care but something must be done. Damn I watch too much si-fi

[MaveriK]

What really cans it for me is how people who break the law so aggressively can then expect to be protected by it.

 

Hangings or public flailings are the way forward, lets get the respect back!

[Pete]

Whipping in schools. Worst thing they did was take away the power from teachers.

This is where they should be learning the discipline.

 

I see today Head teachers are granted more 'powers'.

 

Apparently it's all up to the public to stop this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6961699.stm

[Daston]

oh ok so listened to rock music played GTA and shot boxes with BB guns when I was a kid yet I dont have an erg to go off and kill people! What a load of crap I bloody hate politions they have no idea about the real world

[MrHanky]

oh ok so listened to rock music played GTA and shot boxes with BB guns when I was a kid yet I dont have an erg to go off and kill people! What a load of crap I bloody hate politions they have no idea about the real world

 

Completely agree. I like many other kids used to play such games and watch films that I was not supposed to watch. Yet me and my brother are perfectly normal and don't go around thieving and killing people.

 

Its all well and good the politicians saying its up to the public, but look at the socially responsible people of late that stood up to simple vandals etc. They died for something as simple as saying something to a man who threw litter in his girlfriends car, or the man who died trying to stop some local youths vandalising outside his house (something like that anyway). It would seem that you stand to lose your life for standing up to minor criminals.

So therefore from a public perspective if you are going to do something you either want a lot of you or to go out armed with a baseball bat etc. Only thing is that if you went out and broke the leg of one of these people (in self defense), you yourself would probably end up in prison.

[Al Massey]

make a super prison in the middle of a desert and send all the convicts there or create massive penal legions or send them to mars I dont care but something must be done. Damn I watch too much si-fi

 

we did,its called australia

 

Whipping in schools. Worst thing they did was take away the power from teachers.

This is where they should be learning the discipline.

 

i agree totally.

my da used to hit me if i done something wrong, and it wasnt a little clip,but i never did it again thats for sure,

its the same in the army, if you fu**ed up,you got a punch,end of but now you cant even shout at the young uns coz they have human rights and all that cr*p

[Animal]

Well said. I think it can only get worse as we have now had several generations of namby pamby xtian do-gooder bullshit. How can kids today expect to learn discipline when their parents never had any and just let them run amok.

 

When I was a kid, if I did summat wrong I'd get a crack or I'd get marched back home by the adult that caught me and then I'd get a crack. You soon learn. If I dicked about at school I'd get my knuckles whacked with a ruler. You do any of that shit now, you're up for assault, child abuse or some other offence. Parents & teachers should be allowed to dole out sufficient punishment to keep kids in line.

 

As I said, it's all down to these do-gooder fuckwits with no idea how the real world works. Human rights issues are one thing, but when the law gives more credence to the guilty then something needs to be done.

[Guest CoolsBlue]

this is what needs to happen, good beatings which WILL pull them into shape at home and school, privileges taken away, curfues everywhere, time to stop being nice and crack down on this crap, when i used to go to school, police would have to be outside on some days and kids would be found with hammers and such! KIDS!

[carl0s]

I would put people in prison for a LOT of offences. Things like drugs, criminal damage, burglary, theft (basically anything that is truly dishonest).

 

Get over the drugs thing FFS. What are people afraid of? I think there's a serious fear of altered consciousness in other people. It's wrong and against a basic right of existence to punish and criminalise people for use of intoxicants.

 

I'm not saying give drugs to kid, quite the opposite (http://www.fuckadhd.com). People should be educated, just as they are being with regard to cigarettes and tobacco, over 21 age restrictions imposed, limited (or no) availability, but most importantly, no criminality.

[colsoop]

"tough on crime Tough on the causes of crime" remember that slogan "

 

The problem is Prison isn't a deterrent. I went for a job interview a few years back for an IT position at a prison albeit a private one. I went to have a look round and they had a state of the art gym with plasma tv's

Single man rooms with sky tv (one box linked in to the cells)

An IT suite and they got paid for doing their work. How the hell is that a deterrent or even a suitable punishment ?

I would personally run prison like it should be, a deterrent to criminals. Make them sleep in tents wear pink uniforms and break rocks. Instead of having dirty great tractors excavating gravel pits get the criminals to do it make them graft their arses off day in day out until they leave.

[carl0s]

"tough on crime Tough on the causes of crime" remember that slogan "

 

The problem is Prison isn't a deterrent. I went for a job interview a few years back for an IT position at a prison albeit a private one. I went to have a look round and they had a state of the art gym with plasma tv's

Single man rooms with sky tv (one box linked in to the cells)

An IT suite and they got paid for doing their work. How the hell is that a deterrent or even a suitable punishment ?

I would personally run prison like it should be, a deterrent to criminals. Make them sleep in tents wear pink uniforms and break rocks. Instead of having dirty great tractors excavating gravel pits get the criminals to do it make them graft their arses off day in day out until they leave.

 

So I guess the only thing you can't do in prison is have sex with girls

[Ark]

So I guess the only thing you can't do in prison is have sex with girls

 

Maybe that randy camel should be drafted into the penal system

 

Maybe after a few brutal bu&&erings by a camel, crooks would think twice about prison.

[Havard]

Get over the drugs thing FFS. What are people afraid of? I think there's a serious fear of altered consciousness in other people. It's wrong and against a basic right of existence to punish and criminalise people for use of intoxicants.

 

I'm not saying give drugs to kid, quite the opposite (http://www.fuckadhd.com). People should be educated, just as they are being with regard to cigarettes and tobacco, over 21 age restrictions imposed, limited (or no) availability, but most importantly, no criminality.

 

Sorry Carl but I don't see your argument. Alchohol and tobacco are legal. Drugs are addictive and very expensive on the illegal market and that is why people who aren't extremely rich resort to stealing and burglary to fuel their habits!!

 

You will never reduce crime if you don't remove the cause of the peoples desparation!

 

Education has been tried before and people are made aware of the facts and then they please themsleves!! In my opinion it's this softly softly appraoch that is one of the main problems, people know whether they are doing right or wrong. It's a case of whether they give a shit or fear the consequences of being caught!!

 

H.

[MrHanky]

Get over the drugs thing FFS. What are people afraid of? I think there's a serious fear of altered consciousness in other people. It's wrong and against a basic right of existence to punish and criminalise people for use of intoxicants.

 

I'm not saying give drugs to kid, quite the opposite (http://www.fuckadhd.com). People should be educated, just as they are being with regard to cigarettes and tobacco, over 21 age restrictions imposed, limited (or no) availability, but most importantly, no criminality.

 

I am only guessing here, but im sure a lot of crimes are commited by drug addicts, so that they can fuel there addiction. Its one thing to say that smoking cannibis is not that bad but when it comes to heroin and cocaine addicts, they are only interested in getting more to feed there habit. In some cases this means stealing someones hard earned cash or possessions.

 

I don't think any amount of education is going to change peoples opinions on cocaine and heroine.

 

Mark