PhilMorrison Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yep . The sweetest wheels on the planet are officially for sale!! Work Bersaglio Super VIP rims. 10x19 front with -13 offset 12x19 rear with 0 offset. Of course: 5x114.3 fitment. These are my own personal wheels. I just lent the to the Driftworks S15 for the initial press release, as we had nothing else at the time. We'll be running 18's on it once it's complete for competition. I paid a hell of alot of money to have these refurbished. The rims are now mint, no curbing at all, and a real deep shine to them. The centres are chromed, so I couldn't do to much polishing or it would have gone through. They are still really nice, and super super shiny, with just a few tiny tiny bubbles in the chrome. The inside of each spoke has been painstakingly painted with Hammerite smooth black to give them that fantastic look. The paint has reacted slightly on a few of the bubbles, but you have to get up really close to notice even the slightest flaw in them. For all intents and purposes, unless you are climbing into the dish to have a look, THESE ARE MINT! They haven't been over 2 mile an hour since the refurb as the S15 hasn't run yet 3 options: 1: Wheels only: £1200 2: Wheels with a pair of brand spanking new 235/30/19 Federal 595SS tyres. These still have the stickers on them, and are fitted onto the front pair of wheels. They are the perfect stretch IMO. Not to much and not to little: £1400 3: Wheels with brand new Federal front tyres, and very slightly part worn 275/35/19 Pilot sport (loads of tread, nearly new) £1500. Please don't ask me if they will fit your car, only you will know that as it all depends on tyre width and profile, and what camber you run, etc http://media.driftworks.com/S15/DriftworksS15.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals1.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals2.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals3.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals4.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals5.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals6.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals9.jpg http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals11.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Does anyone know if these will fit on a supra ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyhannah Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Damn Phil if they had of been 18's i would have pulled your arm off for them. good luck with the sale. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 wish I had the doh to take these off your hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 won't fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah, although they are the correct pcd, I wouldn't have thought that they would fit under standard arches, but how far off is it? Whats the maximum size and offset anyone has fitted to a Supra with rolled arches? Most people in the UK are scared of fitting big wheels to their cars. But it's not about fitting the wheels to a car, it's about fitting the car to the wheels If I don't sell these, I'll be making them fit on my JZS161 Aristo . Now that's a challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Off topic stuff removed - good luck with the sale Phil. These would look real sweet on a Supra but would require a trip to the bodyshop to make it work and quite possibly adjustable suspension arms / top mounts. Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 It doesn't look widebody the car in the picture I mean? How have you gotten them to fit? If you are considering fitting them to an aristo I assume you reckon you'd get them onto an aristo without a wide body kit? Any idea on UK spec brake clearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 It doesn't look widebody the car in the picture I mean? How have you gotten them to fit? If you are considering fitting them to an aristo I assume you reckon you'd get them onto an aristo without a wide body kit? Any idea on UK spec brake clearance? negative camber:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yep negative camber, and it is a widebody Vertex Ridge kit, +50mm arches both sides. I'll get them to fit on my Aristo the same way I have with all my other cars with stupid wheels. With a fucking big hammer S13 200sx, standard arches + 18x13" ET -10. Now there was a car that handled like crap http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S13wide.jpg http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S134.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yep negative camber, and it is a widebody Vertex Ridge kit, +50mm arches both sides. I'll get them to fit on my Aristo the same way I have with all my other cars with stupid wheels. With a fucking big hammer S13 200sx, standard arches + 18x13" ET -10. Now there was a car that handled like crap http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S13wide.jpg http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S134.jpg im in love you have style and taste:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yep negative camber, and it is a widebody Vertex Ridge kit, +50mm arches both sides. I'll get them to fit on my Aristo the same way I have with all my other cars with stupid wheels. With a fucking big hammer S13 200sx, standard arches + 18x13" ET -10. Now there was a car that handled like crap http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S13wide.jpg http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S134.jpg The last pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 im in love you have style and taste:) You forgot big balls too! have you seen the way he chucks his cars sideways at 100 MPH + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 they dont clear uk calipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I want them! drooling..! Can anyone please explain what would need to be done to a supra to make them fit nice..? thanks Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Can anyone please explain what would need to be done to a supra to make them fit nice..? I doubt anything could be done to make them fit "nice" but suggestions have already been made on how to fit them, read the posts above. You may need smaller brakes, suspension components that are more adjustable than standard, wider bodywork and a desire to destroy your handling. Otherwise they will slot straight on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 ugh never mind then. they are lovely wheels! goodluck with the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 I doubt anything could be done to make them fit "nice" but suggestions have already been made on how to fit them, read the posts above. You may need smaller brakes, suspension components that are more adjustable than standard, wider bodywork and a desire to destroy your handling. Otherwise they will slot straight on. Thanks for the help with the sale Why the hell do you need to change suspension components? Wider bodywork yes, that is easy. Destroying your handling? That old chestnut eh! Would somebody care to enlighten me as to where you guys get this idea from? How do supercars handle so well with massive wheels? It's all about how you set a car up. I get the impression there's a little to much theoryfact going on here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 How do supercars handle so well with massive wheels? Because they're designed from the ground up to have that size wheels, stick some 30" wheels on a Lambo do you still think it will handle so well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 It's all about how you set a car up. Agreed, hence my comment about adding more adjustability into the suspension components in order to cope with changes needed to make the clown car wheel and tyre combo make contact with the road. Is the S15 pictured running standard suspension? On the subject of tyres I'd also budget to fit some that actually look as though they should be on the rim rather than going for the Jazz1 "stretched" special approach but that's just me, I run 275's on standard Supra 17's, I'd want something much wider on a 12" rim. Of course there is some degree of flexibility within the standard setup but those wheels would look rather silly with standard ride height don't you think? They require suspension modifications for cosmetic and dynamic reasons IMO, you are welcome to disagree of course. I appreciate that you are trying to sell something here and that your input may have a slight bias towards securing a sale though, apologies if you view my comments as being destructive, I simply see them as being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 I simply see them as interfering to be honest. But no matter, I guess you are welcome to your opinion, it just seems a little uneducated. I think it's quite laughable that you are presenting a handling biased argument, then go on to mention you run a 275 on a standard Supra wheel... Let's have a think about what ballooning a tyre does to handling.. Hmmmm, perhaps a little more testing and personal experience might be in order, before presenting your theories as fact in the future . Right. admin/mod can you delete this thread for me please. It's a bit of a shame really, but this is obviously not the place to sell these wheels . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Educate me then, that's what forums are about isn't it? Hmmmm, perhaps a little more testing and personal experience might be in order, before presenting your theories as fact in the future . I've done plenty of testing with my own stuff over the years thanks, I'm happy to listen to your findings on the testing of these wheels on the Supra though... do go on... Kerching $$$ Apologies that I'm not on my knees and sucking away like most replies you are used to, I appreciate your god-like status though so don't take it too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I think it's quite laughable that you are presenting a handling biased argument, then go on to mention you run a 275 on a standard Supra wheel... Let's have a think about what ballooning a tyre does to handling.. Hmmmm, perhaps a little more testing and personal experience might be in order, before presenting your theories as fact in the future . Phil, get over yourself. 275 on a standard supra width rear wheel is fine (but I wouldn't want to go higher). 275 on a 12j wheel is ridiculous, you'd want at least 315 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 What width is a standard Supra wheel? I was under the impression it's 8". If it's bigger I stand to be correct. Friendly bunch arn't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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