Smellywelshman Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Right, As I've posted a week or so ago I'm planning to convert my N/A to a TT with an engine/transmission/diff transplant via Jezz's Silverstone garage. Now all I've had from you guys so far is support about this idea. But........ I've been speaking to my mate (the erstwhile FTO owner that I'm looking forward to burning offf the minute I had some tubbies) and his mate (a mechanic) has strongly advised that I don't do it! He's said that the N/A's make-up as in suspension, brakes and lack of traction control mean that it will be undriveable. He's also said that the majority of parts on the N/A (chassis and general nuts and bolts are not fit to take the extra power. This guy is not a Supra expert, and from reading some of the threads on here..... I know that this is the place to ask the question.... Can my N/A take it? Has anybody on here done it so far, or does anybody know of someone thats had it done that I can talk to? As that would be the ultimate proof of the pudding. I just dont want to f*@k up a clean car because of my power hungry nature!!! Cheers for your help peeps, Rob... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I wouldn't worry aboyut the TC, upgrade your brakes, and it wouldn't hurt to upgrade the suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Most of the stuff is the same other than that which is already included as part of the conversion so don't worry about it - as for traction control, it ain't worth diddly anyways and you're better off without it, mine has TC removed - traction control is my right foot! Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 It's on the cards my friend, brakes first and then suspension next. Mite take a while like, but it WILL get done. Watch this space... Its what he said about the general 'bits' that worried me mainly. Like the N/A couldn't take it!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Most of the stuff is the same other than that which is already included as part of the conversion so don't worry about it - as for traction control, it ain't worth diddly anyways and you're better off without it, mine has TC removed - traction control is my right foot! Cheers, Brian. Brian, your a shining light in this malestrom of confusion!! I know what your saying regarding the traction control. I recently had an episode that reaffirmed my respect for the rwd GT car! It just shook me up a tad to have a mechanic be so against me doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 i think i only need to say one thing... This guy is not a Supra expert The guys at silverstone garage on the other hand are... And as has already been said. Suspension and brakes on an NA are the same as the jspec TT (unless it happens to have the upgraded brakes, which is quite rare) And the T control on a supra is useless anyway most people turn it off. P.S Im planning to do the conversion early next year. And i think ill be leaving the brakes as they are for now. ive had better pads and some braided lines fitted and that inproves them quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 i think i only need to say one thing... The guys at silverstone garage on the other hand are... And as has already been said. Suspension and brakes on an NA are the same as the jspec TT (unless it happens to have the upgraded brakes, which is quite rare) And the T control on a supra is useless anyway most people turn it off. P.S Im planning to do the conversion early next year. And i think ill be leaving the brakes as they are for now. ive had better pads and some braided lines fitted and that inproves them quite a bit. Hahahahahahahahaha, good man!! But you and I are slightly biased, as we REALLY REALLY want to do this! I'm just trying to cover all my bases if you know what I mean! I'd really like to talk to someone thats actually had this done, so I can discuss the in's and out's with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm biased too, as I want to do it to mine, but I think everyone who has done it already are all the proof you need... I do like the thought that Toyota would have fitted weaker bolts to the NA, sorry, it made me giggle Go for it, I'm sure you'll have yours done before mine, I've still got to get mine back in one piece... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 i dont recall the names of the guys who have had it done. however i did very briefly chat to a guy while my car was at silverstong garage who i believe was the first to have it done. he seemed very satisfied. Im trying to see if jezzy has a vvti engine to fit in with my car being facelift... but i think impatience is going to get the better of me and ill end up with a pre facelift engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The standard suspension is not the same on the NA, the NA has different spring rates and damping as they are slightly lighter. What the effect will be, putting a TT lump in there I've no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 I didn't think that the suspension was the same, but thats easily sortable isn't it. I'm more concerned about any internals and the lack of TC. But as has already been mentioned a lot of people turn theirs off anyway, so that seems to get rid of that problem. Anyone on today thats had this done? Or know of someone whose had it done. I get the feeling that theres quite a few N/A owners on here who are considering doing this, and it would be good to get some feedback doncha think!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Ask Jezz, he's not going to tell you any fibs mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Im doing mine very soon just need to get hold of £500 i have the rest saved up, anyone wanna donate £5 into my paypal to help me along my way! I will promise a good write up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Im doing mine very soon just need to get hold of £500 i have the rest saved up, anyone wanna donate £5 into my paypal to help me along my way! I will promise a good write up prefer put the £5 to mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 Ask Jezz, he's not going to tell you any fibs mate Oh aye, he's a good bloke. And (had) put my mind at ease after many pm's and even more questions from me just this mechanic gave me the willies. All I've heared on here are good things about doing it.... Im doing mine very soon just need to get hold of £500 i have the rest saved up, anyone wanna donate £5 into my paypal to help me along my way! I will promise a good write up I'll race you there mate I'm booked in to get it done onthe 31st of this month.... Wooooooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The standard suspension is not the same on the NA, the NA has different spring rates and damping as they are slightly lighter. What the effect will be, putting a TT lump in there I've no idea. i dow to your superior knowledge. i cant imagine this being hard to change... if it even needs to be at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'll race you there mate I'm booked in to get it done onthe 31st of this month.... Wooooooo! Im fitting it all myself with my girlfriends dad he is a great mechanic Im just after all the parts would like to get mine done by the end of september lets see if i can get that £500 i need Was very impressed with what my insurance company come up with price wise aswell Is yours a 5speed mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 how much was the jump? out of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 how much was the jump? out of interest You have PM mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 Im fitting it all myself with my girlfriends dad he is a great mechanic Im just after all the parts would like to get mine done by the end of september lets see if i can get that £500 i need Was very impressed with what my insurance company come up with price wise aswell Is yours a 5speed mate? Nay lad, auto, so Jezz will be fitting a TT autobox as part of the conversion. Oh, and an FMIC to:eyebrows: Now, I know that this is going to sound dead dopey. But how many gears does the TT autobox have? I've looked on the model differences chart and it looks like theres four (inc. overdrive). If this is so is the gearing different to cope with the higher top speed/power? Its a discussion me and my FTO owning mate were having over a pint of Arthur Guinness's best last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 You have PM mate Could you tell me too mate? Just so I know what I'm looking at;) Who are you with? I've just renewed with sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Could you tell me too mate? Just so I know what I'm looking at;) Who are you with? I've just renewed with sky. You also have a PM mate glad to be of some help oh by the way im with Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovervi Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Im fitting it all myself with my girlfriends dad he is a great mechanic Im just after all the parts would like to get mine done by the end of september lets see if i can get that £500 i need Was very impressed with what my insurance company come up with price wise aswell Is yours a 5speed mate? Are you keeping the 5 speed, and are you adding LSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellywelshman Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 TT LSD is included within the conversion. And I seemto remember reading a thread on here that the 5 speed box couldn't handle the extra power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Im keeping mine 5speed with a uprated clutch mine has a LSD already and all the other little extras most NA's didnt come with. Im pretty sure the NA box will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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