Ian C Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Keep it techie CW has a good point, as do others - find a good mapper as a start point and fit the hardware around that... -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I know ho he is So do i Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 He's a mate of Terrys , i believe you would need to go thru him Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 He's a mate of Terrys , i believe you would need to go thru him Dude Could be? But seing as said person has been living with me over the past couple of weeks I may have an insight to this system ..but i am sworn to secrecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Could be? But seing as said person has been living with me over the past couple of weeks I may have an insight to this system ..but i am sworn to secrecy You havent got your own gimp now have you ???? Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Yup and what a lurverly mop i have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Dont actually want to use him m8 - just interested in the thinking behind the 'one and only' theory My FCon is being taken off tomorrow to see if it has been 'locked' by the tuners in Japan - fingers crossed Then we'll see from there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Its a bugger when they are locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Good luck paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Its a bugger when they are locked By locked does that mean completely unusable and a new one needs to be bought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 No according to my 'tuners' (he's wearing a pink carnation under the clock tower) - it means that it has to be overwritten The unit is still serviceable - but the map in it cant be changed/modified The problem is - all cars are different and according to several people I have spoken to in the field you cant just use a 'generic' map to work on really (or everyone's figures would be the same when they come back from Thor or wherever - the fuelling over there is different etc etc) Always expected tweaking and a certain amount So we will see - either way my options are open.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Usmann A Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I think I know who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 You can tell from a pink carnation? Gad this boy is good! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Usmann A Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I never said I knew, just that I thought, but if the person himself does not want to disclose, I surely have no right too. Hey Paul, no contact, well I suppose now that you got whatever info off me, there is no need to is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I never said I knew, just that I thought, but if the person himself does not want to disclose, I surely have no right too. Hey Paul, no contact, well I suppose now that you got whatever info off me, there is no need to is there? Oi ya big tart - i sent chocolates and flowers - where ya bin? Just busy mate - you coming down to see me and the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Guys, dont lets get into ECU bashing here. People have had good sucess in the US supposedly with the AEM. The Autronic works very well. etc, etc. If the hardware works, then it's all down to the Tuner. If the hardware doesnt work, the tuner has no hope. The F-Con can be over written, but only by an authorised dealer with the correct encrypted USB key. Paul, as Mig said, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Im not exactly sure how these units work But I have spoken to an HKS dealer who told me the following. You purchase an f-con V-Pro controller. They are all generic apart from the wiring loom that is car specific. You then feed it the instructions as to, injector size, ammount of cylinders, Turbo Size etc etc and it sets up the base map for you. Then you can take it to Vortex or Abbey and have it tuned to the exact specification.... Am I or was he wrong? He also stated that it should take NO longer than 4 hours on the computers and dyno to map by a professional tuner with the right kit after its been installed and the base map configured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Im not exactly sure how these units work But I have spoken to an HKS dealer who told me the following. You purchase an f-con V-Pro controller. They are all generic apart from the wiring loom that is car specific. Correct You then feed it the instructions as to, injector size, ammount of cylinders, Turbo Size etc etc and it sets up the base map for you. No, you cannot access the unit at all. It can only be accessed by an apporved tuner Then you can take it to Vortex or Abbey and have it tuned to the exact specification.... AFAIK, the only UK people that can access the EMS are Abey, GT-Art, Owen Dev and TDI. He also stated that it should take NO longer than 4 hours on the computers and dyno to map by a professional tuner with the right kit after its been installed and the base map configured. I dont know if that is right or wrong My big concern regarding the mapping is that there doesnt seem to be anyone here with extensive experience of mapping the F-con on a Supra. Yes, GT-art and Abbey have allegedly had success with Skylines but I would still prefer to have someone with Supra experience. I mean, would we take our cars to Abbey or Gt-Art to be repaired or serviced? I am guessing not and yet we are considering letting them tune the most important part of the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I mean, would we take our cars to Abbey to be repaired or serviced? I am guessing not and yet we are considering letting them tune the most important part of the car Apart from the cost (help mummy!) - Yes Abbey actually have a 'Supra guy' employed now - the skylines are more difficult to work on than supras - they map about 20 cars a month and have extensive knowledge of the F-Con system. Apart from the cost...jeez these guys are not cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastisnice Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 I've always had an HKS F-CON in my car both the Supra and the Subaru and it seems to do a pretty good job. Im also a guy of mapping it and leaving it for ever.He never had to remap it ...So thats good. Playing alone with an ECU like some others is like playing with fire unless you really know what you doing. My car has been running under all sorts of conditions even when i had the shitty 440CC injectors maxed at 100% duty! never had any trouble of running lean or rich its always spot on. PS Chris can tell u how well my car goes at the moment:), standard bottom end no cams/no head gasket nothing [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Im not exactly sure how these units work But I have spoken to an HKS dealer who told me the following. You purchase an f-con V-Pro controller. They are all generic apart from the wiring loom that is car specific. You then feed it the instructions as to, injector size, ammount of cylinders, Turbo Size etc etc and it sets up the base map for you. Then you can take it to Vortex or Abbey and have it tuned to the exact specification.... Am I or was he wrong? He also stated that it should take NO longer than 4 hours on the computers and dyno to map by a professional tuner with the right kit after its been installed and the base map configured. That would get the car running..... I guess only time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Can the F-CON S run the VVT-i TT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 An engine is an engine, it still follows the same laws of physics and requires the same fueling. I cannot see why you wouldn't use Abbey etc when they obviously know how to map a car....Supra or Skyline it doesn't matter...IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastisnice Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 Yeah the F-CON S can do a VVTi it can do pretty much everything... i will be selling mine pretty cheap soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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