Gaz6002 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 You are saying I've just been suckered in simply by a big brand name?! I actually take that quite personally as an insult! Me too. I spend a lot of time researching parts, i've learnt the hard way that it pays dividends in the end. To have that laughed at and thrown back at me as jumping on the brandname bandwagon is quite an insult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 do you use cooking oil in your car bolarbag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Next up, using red diesel so that you aren't tempted to go past 4000rpm and wear your engine out. Discuss. -Ian :rlol: You crack me up Ian, you really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Right to settle an argument, does no one have a test of two tyres, one cheapo, the other a performance tyre, in a supra, with emergency braking at 30mph? Or any rear wheel drive car? I'd be surprised if the differences where over 10 or so feet That could be the difference between missing a child or hitting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I would rather not lose traction at all in the first place. As I'm sure most others would also. Whoa, steady on! I agree! But the only way you'll be sure of that is to go nowhere near the limit. In fact my comment was more about hard vs soft compound than cheap vs expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 That could be the difference between missing a child or hitting it. Indeed, that's a hell of a difference. 10 feet is 13% of the stopping distance at 30mph (75 feet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Whoa, steady on! I agree! But the only way you'll be sure of that is to go nowhere near the limit. In fact my comment was more about hard vs soft compound than cheap vs expensive. Sorry if that came across the wrong way mate, i was actually agreeing with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Another thing that can make a huge difference is tyre pressure (something you can't be suckered into buying, Ian ) As a perfect example, my ITR's tyres were all at 30-32 psi and it was handling awfully. Was very slidy and didn't instil confidence in me at all! So, today i checked the stock pressures (35fr and 33rr) and adjusted accordingly. What a difference!! So in short, i'll be sticking to top class tyres at the correct pressures and will be checking them weekly from now on! (i'm ashamed to say it was likely to be monthly before now) Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 2 things that you shouldn't mess with on a car are brakes & tyres, in my opinion you should get the best you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Interesting Ian, where can you find out info on what stock pressures to use for certain tyres? I'm using 32psi all round on my 19s. That was from searching on here and it seemed to be what most used. Would be interested if I could get some concrete figures though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Next up, using red diesel so that you aren't tempted to go past 4000rpm and wear your engine out. Discuss. lol:d Well luckily I dont drive my car in the wet, anymore, as I dont feel the need, (no I dont just get out my car in the middle of the M8 at the first sign of drizzle). But how anyone can think that the supra is good handling in the wet is beyond me, unless truely set up its miles apart from any 4wheel drive I have experienced, but thats the small sacrifice I'm prepared to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Interesting Ian, where can you find out info on what stock pressures to use for certain tyres? I'm using 32psi all round on my 19s. That was from searching on here and it seemed to be what most used. Would be interested if I could get some concrete figures though. Stock pressures for the supra are higher than that mate (36psi all round iirc). That said, you're not running stock wheels or tyres but i'd when i had my supra i had mine at 34psi all round. (my Integra has stock wheels/tyres btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 How do you find the P0's wear Ian? Seems like a lot of talk about things other than what tire to chose in the wet going on. I'm not Ian, but I'm about to replace my Pzero Nero M+S's and I have to say it's been the best tire in the wet by far. I've tried 6 different tires over the course of 6 years in very wet conditions, both in Okinawa (sub-tropical) and here in NW Germany where it rains all the damn time. My Pzeros lasted over a year and that's with three trips to the Nurburgring. Supra's suck in the rain compared to a car that's good in the rain. I'll leave that open to interuptation, but suffice to say, it's been one of the worse in the wet I've owned. That being said, I'm changing to Bridgestone Potenza 960 Pole Positions on both my Supra and BMW because they were rated even better than the Pzero's (tirerack). As soon as I do a thousand miles or so, I'll post an update on performance. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 But surely comparing RWD cars to 4WD cars is pointless. Apples and oranges and all that. Everyone knows the Supra can be a bit twitchy at times. As mentioned before you just need a sensible head on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Stock pressures for the supra are higher than that mate (36psi all round iirc). That said, you're not running stock wheels or tyres but i'd when i had my supra i had mine at 34psi all round. (my Integra has stock wheels/tyres btw) What size wheels were you running when you were using 34psi out of interest? 32 was the figure that came up the most when I searched. I took a quick glance at the car today when I locked it and the front seemed to look slightly flat... ? Perhaps I'll put some more in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Sorry if that came across the wrong way mate, i was actually agreeing with you No worries, I just thought I'd been misunderstood as defending the cheap tyre idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 What size wheels were you running when you were using 34psi out of interest? 32 was the figure that came up the most when I searched. I took a quick glance at the car today when I locked it and the front seemed to look slightly flat... ? Perhaps I'll put some more in there. they were on 18s with 235fr and 255rr (not that makes any difference really) as said, i'd definitely put more in than 32 mate. try 36psi (stock) and experiment a bit...like i said i found 34psi to suit mine quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I honestly cannot see the logic. But to each their own and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 they were on 18s with 235fr and 255rr (not that makes any difference really) as said, i'd definitely put more in than 32 mate. try 36psi (stock) and experiment a bit...like i said i found 34psi to suit mine quite well. Thanks for that mate, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I think that cheap/average tyres can assist in letting you know how the car reacts at the limit whilst still going at a modest speed. I agree that it is regardless of being wet or dry, summer or winter, however if you want to experience the car breaking away to see how it reacts and to learn how you should react then there is some sense in doing this, in the wet, and with tyres that allow it at lower speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I have got on really well with Firestone ZA-80's. Superb in the dry & very good in the wet & have lasted me 16,000miles + atm. I have just ordered another pair for the back. £133 fitted each! Still a couple of thousand miles left in the fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 when i got the car i had avons on the rear and goodyear f1s on the front. the avons lasted about 3 months and then when i had it mot'd they were fucked, i was a bit... wtf already? i have some hancook on atm. they seem quite good in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD-Rob Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 when i got the car i had avons on the rear and goodyear f1s on the front. the avons lasted about 3 months and then when i had it mot'd they were fucked, i was a bit... wtf already? i have some hancook on atm. they seem quite good in the wet. 3 months bloody hell they mush have been really soft that or you love to spin the wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 T1-R are quality, very soft compound so ware faster, but small price to pay. stick like glue in all gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD-Rob Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 T1-R are quality, very soft compound so ware faster, but small price to pay. stick like glue in all gears not to worried about them sticking in every gear id rather them stick in ever weather what they like in the wet mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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