SimonR Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Picked up a set of 16 inch MKIV wheels this morning. First one got a good clean then I set about it with the lacquer. To my surprise it has caused the paint to bubble. As far as I know this is the original paint and I was using Carplan lacquer, which I have used before. What would have caused the paint to bubble like this? I don’t think that I have done anything different from other stuff that I have done and I have read threads where others have lacquered their MKIV wheels without problems. Could it be anything to do with ambient temp or humidity (it’s hot in Kent today)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 What did you clean them with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 Wonder Wheels, then a good rinse, then Autogylm Interior Shampoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Strange, seems as if the laquer is thinning out the paint... Who painted them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 Toyota AFAIK. I assume that this is the original paint. Did they not come in that colour then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Not sure Simon, I don't do stock I thought silver was the stock colour but I could be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 the stock alloys come black on some of the RZ's if they are 16" Looks like the lacquer has reacted with the paint or cleaning materials you have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 OK, I'll try a different lacquer. Does anyone know the paint code for that wheel colour? I'll need to take that bubbled paint off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absz Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 it seems that you have had some reaction on the paint ? ie thinners evaporating two quickly due to heat, or maybe not given enough time between coats ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Cellulose lacquer on acrylic paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 The can says "acrylic lacquer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 The can says "acrylic lacquer". Won't be that then I don't think acrylic on cellulose is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Get them media blasted and powder coated, it'll work out a lot less hassle and be an infinitely better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 OK, I'll try a different lacquer. Does anyone know the paint code for that wheel colour? I'll need to take that bubbled paint off. Unless you know what the paint that is on them is and how old, then you are risking that sort of reaction happening, its a metallic colour on there, so my bets would be 2K, now the acrylic that is in some of the spray cans is not compatible with 2K! And yes you need to remove the areas that have reacted, in fact i would remove it all! or at the very least use a barrier coat first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 the stock alloys come black on some of the RZ's if they are 16"The local Toyota place tells me that they can't help with a colour code as this colour wheel only existed on imports. Can anyone confirm/deny this? I'm not up to speed on Supra models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeyboy2k Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 The local Toyota place tells me that they can't help with a colour code as this colour wheel only existed on imports. Can anyone confirm/deny this? I'm not up to speed on Supra models. If they are the graphite 16"s then I would say this is true. I believe the UK 17"s came in the silver colour only - shame, I'd like a set of graphite 17"s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 OK, the very excellent STT has sorted me with Chassis and Frame numbers for a car that came with these wheels. Does anyone know of a site where I can translate these details into OEM paint codes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 OK, the very excellent STT has sorted me with Chassis and Frame numbers for a car that came with these wheels. Does anyone know of a site where I can translate these details into OEM paint codes? I don't understand what you mean. I've never heard of a paint code for wheels coming from chassis/frame numbers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 If they are the graphite 16"s then I would say this is true. I believe the UK 17"s came in the silver colour only - shame, I'd like a set of graphite 17"s. Graphite. THAT's the word I've been searching for. I've been looking to respray my stock 17's and couldn't for the life of me remember the name of the colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 I don't understand what you mean. I've never heard of a paint code for wheels coming from chassis/frame numbers etc.Fair enough:) I haven't either, but there was always an outside chance that someone somewhere might have known a way. I'm grasping at straws now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 i bet its the wonder wheels that is your problem mate! its like acid! yes it removes brake dust very well, but takes everything else with it as well. ive seen the stuff destroy so many wheels its unreal. Soap and water and a good scrub is all you need. It seems to get underneath lacquers and ends up pulling all the finish away from the surface. Nasty stuff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 I've heard this before. When I had a set of wheels refurbed years ago I asked the guy how I should take care of them and he said "don't use alloy wheel cleaner". This particular problem looks as though it was because I was letting the lacquer 'puddle' when I was applying it. I've been trying different lacquers, paints and primers on these wheels and I've learned two things so far: 1/ Use German paint. 2/ Don't apply too much of anything in one go. I love journeys of discovery like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 But do you need to be on so many at one time Simon:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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