jamesmark Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Just watching the news and I cannot help but feeling the urge for the victims to shut up. Protests against Gordon Brown, anger that this has happened. Believe me I am not a fan of Gordon Brown but it is hardly his fault. If anything blame mother nature, blame the council for cutting back on insurance for there tennants. But they moved next to a river that could run the risk of flooding, most have not even taken out home contents insurance and are now a bit fecked to say the least. I for one do not feel sorry for the people that decided not to take insurance and protest to Gordon Brown is not going to stop the rain from falling from the sky. The only thing that I can see that has failed is the supplies could have been there sooner. As I said these people have decided to stay next to a flood plane, some of those people have decided to not take out insurance so why do they not look closer to home? I thought it was common sense on insurance side of things to make sure you were fully insured or am I just being silly? Or it could even be the media blowing it all out of context. The protest on the news I saw was they had massive signs, could time not have went better spent help the clean up operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Try living round here then you loon. A hell of a lot of damage and chaos. Areas nowhere near tributaries are under a good few feet of water running off the hills and fields. Not being funny but it's easy to form that sort of opinion if you haven't seen it with your own eyes mate. I'll drop you a piccy of abingdon tomorrow and you can tell me what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Try living round here then you loon. A hell of a lot of damage and chaos. Areas nowhere near tributaries are under a good few feet of water running off the hills and fields. Not being funny but it's easy to form that sort of opinion if you haven't seen it with your own eyes mate. I'll drop you a piccy of abingdon tomorrow and you can tell me what you think. Quick to past judgement Lewis;) I have suffered floods back home. 2 foot of water in my house so I DO KNOW what it is like and I will never live in a house that can run the risk of floods, however I learned that lesson after it happened to me, that aside though. I just feel that this is all a bit very OTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Think of it as a dress rehearsal for when the sea levels rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Quick to past judgement Lewis, I have suffered floods back home. 2 foot of water in my house so I DO KNOW what it is like and I will never live in a house that can run the risk of floods, however I learned that lesson after it happened to me, that aside though. I just feel that this is all a bit very OTT. Sorry if you took it as a judgement, I didn't mean it like that (hoped the smiley would show that). 2 foot is certainly subtantial but without getting into dick measuring we have far deeper here at the moment. The point I was trying to raise is that it isn't just people living in risk areas. Areas previously thought to be low risk have been impacted by overflowing drainage systems, rivers forming new tributaries and surface run off from fields. I totally agree that people who don't have insurance (but can afford it) only have themselves to blame. My main thoughts are for the elderly, infirm and young (some of whom have since died) and may not be able to fend for themselves or replace their property. It's just my opinion mate having seen how it is in some areas first hand. EDIT - nice edit to add a smiley there James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The people who live in a flood plain or/and don't have insurance, I say the majority or all of the responsibility lies on them, they have a duty to research the place they're moving into and to cover themselves accordingly, after all, you don't see people asking for funds off the government after being burgled? Something the G's more responsible for policing... The people who live in an area who have their lives 'impaired' by having the water cut off for a long period of time (24 hrs+), should expect an adequate level of help and supply of drinking water... But not compensation for loss of property if uninsured... Any compensation for having to source water elsewhere should be imposed upon the water companies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 I fully appeciate the the damage and what the impact it has caused but blaming others for damage caused in "low risk areas" or even "high risk areas" is not going to get anybody re homed quicker. How is the Governement meant to combat mother nature? apart from building 10 foot walls along the river? It is going to happen no matter what our MP's decide. I read in the paper that the Government has said that more houses require to be built and some of them are in flood plains because the need out wieghs the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 anyone else find it funny there was none of this shit when the north flooded. it was mostly ignored. now precious little middle england is getting it suddenly its a national emergancy. i dont recall seeing pictures of water being handed out in hull or sheffield on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Is it not the councils that give approval to builders in the first place to build homes in these areas ? While living in Reading, each year the river would flood the football fields and upto the railway line some 200m away. This is near the big Tesco's for the local guy's in the RG postcode. Last summer they built 3 new tower blocks on the edge of the fields with underground car parking.....OK they did add better drainage at the road but, the water has to get past the tower blocks to reach the road. who is to blame ? I guess we forget that we live on an island and that space is running out so, we accept the risks....and we are all supposed to have insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 anyone else find it funny there was none of this shit when the north flooded. it was mostly ignored. now precious little middle england is getting it suddenly its a national emergancy. i dont recall seeing pictures of water being handed out in hull or sheffield on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I just hope that it all manages to get sorted out soon:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Here is the pic of ock street I was talking about from the other day. To put it into context, it's normally a standard road (single lane each direction) with a path on either side. The edges you can see are all raised from road level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Why is everyone so insistent on finding someone to blame? It's nature, it does odd things, we get caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 anyone else find it funny there was none of this shit when the north flooded. it was mostly ignored. now precious little middle england is getting it suddenly its a national emergancy. i dont recall seeing pictures of water being handed out in hull or sheffield on the news. because people from the north are weird and no one could understand them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 slightyl related ... Swindon council are looking to develop an area of swindon for housing. We're talking thousands of new homes ... all to be built on the flood plain. How, given the current crisis can they say it'll be fine. I'm guessing that other places have done similar and whatever flood works have been put in place are not up to the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I don't think people should complain about getting money if they didn't have insurance, it's a shitter I agree but you can't expect the government (read 'everyone else') to pay for your losses!!! Bloke at work got a breakdown of his car insurance, and part of it is an 'uninsured loss recovery' payment!!! WTF, we have to pay out so morons can drive without insurance and get a £30 fine!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Kevin Costner was right water world will come, i am already planning for when the roads are rivers, i am hoping to have a twin engined power boat with two 500hp engines, overtaking should be great, but will we still have traffic lights and queues of boats all over the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 just think guys no hose pipe ban this year . that is unless we get two or more days of sun in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 anyone else find it funny there was none of this shit when the north flooded. it was mostly ignored. now precious little middle england is getting it suddenly its a national emergancy. i dont recall seeing pictures of water being handed out in hull or sheffield on the news. EXACTLY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 did Hull pumpking station get shutdown then ? I soke to my ex that ilves there and allthough she had flooding (bad) she never lost her water supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 hull doesnt have a pumpking station. maybe you should speek to her again... Ok the pumpkin station didnt get shut down. but there was still shit floating down the streat... ...And then it flooded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 lol i think its fair to say that hull underwater does actually go down as civic improvment ? maybe thats why the government didn't do anything up there ? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 anyone else find it funny there was none of this shit when the north flooded. it was mostly ignored. now precious little middle england is getting it suddenly its a national emergancy. i dont recall seeing pictures of water being handed out in hull or sheffield on the news. And your point is? :eyebrows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I don't think people should complain about getting money if they didn't have insurance, it's a shitter I agree but you can't expect the government (read 'everyone else') to pay for your losses!!! Bloke at work got a breakdown of his car insurance, and part of it is an 'uninsured loss recovery' payment!!! WTF, we have to pay out so morons can drive without insurance and get a £30 fine!!! This REALLY annoys me. (I mean I agree with you!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I don't think people should complain about getting money if they didn't have insurance, it's a shitter I agree but you can't expect the government (read 'everyone else') to pay for your losses!!! I agree, the sort that are without insurance probably have a fridge full of lager and smoke 40 fags a day whilst lounging around in their velour tracksuits and then expect handouts because they 'couldn't afford insurance'? It's the same as me insuring the Supra third party and then asking for the Government to pay my repair bill if I drive it into a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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