redline Rooster Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Hi, I'm on the hunt for a Supra at the mo, now up until now i've driven the Auto supras, and was very impressed with the auto box, silky smooth and very quick. However there is a 5 speed manual that i'm gonna look at in the next few days, and I was just wondering if any of you guys knew of any repetative problems with the tranny or clutch. I'm only asking this because a guy at work reckoned he had no end of trouble with the 2nd and 3rd gear synchro, and it ate its way through clutches, he ended up putting a modded racing clutch on there but then he moaned about the heavy clutch feel anyway i'd really be gratefull for any views you might have!! cheers Radline Rooster!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 ARe you looking at an NA or Twin Turbo, the TT only came with a 6 speed for the manuals, the NA had 5 speed and later 6 speed as an option on some models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redline Rooster Posted May 26, 2002 Author Share Posted May 26, 2002 Hi, Well yeah it turns out the car i was gonna look at was a NA I'm only after the TTs and I didn't know the TTs were only 6 speed, I'm sure the guy at work said his TT was a 5 speed!?!? oh well cheers for the info! - i think though i may go for an auto as finding a nice 6 speed TT is about likly as me inventing perpetual motion! Cheers Redline Rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipfinger Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Everyone will hate me now, but the NA isn't bad at all.....I had the chance of buying a TT auto and an NA manual, and went for the NA - to 60 there isn't really THAT much difference (under a second), and I wanted a manual.... Obviously, if turbo power is your thing, go for it. Lots of people I know ask if mine is a TT, and I say no.....they look all disappointed (as they imagine that the NA is just a TT engine minus the turbos) until I take them for a spin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Am I right in saying that the TT has slightly lower compression pistons than the N/A (as do most turbo variants). If that's the case, then until the first turbo gets a decent spool-up the N/A is actually going to be putting out MORE power. Alright it's only up to ~2,000rpm BUT it will "take-off" just a little more rapidly than the TT. The same was DEFINITELY so in my RS Escort - up to ~2,000rpm an equivalent XR3i pulled MUCH better (obviously my RS then PI**ED all over the N/A, but it still felt quicker off the 'line' unless you kept the turbo spinning AS you pulled away). (don't forget until the turbos are 'moving' themselves you've/I've got a bloody turbine stuck up my exhaust pipe ! ! this obviously doesn't do much for gas-flow ! ! ) I'M NOT BIASED TOWARDS THE N/A's BECAUSE I HAD THE 'RS' AND HAVE NOW GOT THE 'TT'. IT'S JUST THE "WAY THINGS ARE". [ Ideally, you need some system which allows a HIGH comp' ratio 'till the turbo starts pressurising - THEN drops the comp' ratio ? ] I think that's one reason why the auto box isn't at such a disadvantage in the Supra TT - because as soon as you touch the throttle, it ALLOWS the revs to jump straight up to a decent 'spooling' level ? ? ? GOD....don't I go on....... SORRY. Steve W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 I half considered an NA after I crashed the TT, due to price and insurance costs, but the ITR came up and never got to have a look at one. Originally posted by Flipfinger Everyone will hate me now, but the NA isn't bad at all.....I had the chance of buying a TT auto and an NA manual, and went for the NA - to 60 there isn't really THAT much difference (under a second), and I wanted a manual.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipfinger Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Co-incidentally, I was after an ITR until I was tempted away to a Supra..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Originally posted by Flipfinger Co-incidentally, I was after an ITR until I was tempted away to a Supra..... Did you test drive one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 It's funny isn't it. The NA has got about 230bhp or so as standard, and as Flip said, that's enough to get some decent starts off the line, frighten unsuspecting passengers, and make the car a lot faster than a lot of other "performance cars" out there. Surely any sane person would be happy with that, wouldn't they? And yet, the vast majority of people of this BBS have TT supras, which put out around 300bhp as standard. A vast output, which ten years ago would have been right up there with the best that ferrari or lamborghini could do. A stock TT is right on the brink of being a supercar in terms of straight line performance, I bet everyone remembers their first drive, thinking that the second turbo was gonna punch them right through the drivers seat and into the miniscule boot. And to top it all, 99% of TT owners, within a month of getting their car, get bored! They want more power, more noise, more everything, and they keep wanting it no matter how much they have of it! And all this in a country where the maximum speed it is legal to attain is 70mph, a figure which a stock NA get's to in seven or eight seconds, with two or three gears to go. Mad, ain't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipfinger Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Rich: Yes, I drove my friends Type-R, which is why I wanted one. The only thing (small as it was) that I could possibly see as a downside was that I'd have used the car to drive semi-long motorway distances, and the lack of soundproofing (I know, for the glorious weight reduction!) might have been a PITA after a while. Had they been RWD, I'd have snapped someone's arm off for one, too. All said though, they're really great cars, almost like driving a go-kart (great handling, low weight). And also the only car in EXISTENCE that white is the best-looking standard colour.... Adam: Mad, innit? I don't even drive my NA to half its potential, and have some serious amounts of fun (had it 8 months now, and only just stopped going to empty carparks on wet evenings!) - of course, there is ALWAYS going to be people wanting to go faster. Thrustin with his dreams of Diablo ownership, for example.....but that boy's a nutter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Flip: You know what your missing then I do 80 miles a day on M roads, noise it not a major problem, you notice how much quieter other cars are when your in them but, VTECing passed Mundeo more than makes up for the Tegs noise. Adam: I know what you mean about top speed, even with the Tegs low max speed of 140ish MPH, I'm thinking of getting a higher ratio final drive (gearbox has to come out for scyncho replacement) to reduce that down a bit and gain a little more lower down, at realistic road speeds. Spoon and ATS even do a crossgear set the lowers 5th down to about the same as 4th is on the standard car, and positions the other gears so reves never drop below 6500rpm on shifting from 8000rpm in every gear, would make M road driving unbareable though, but fantastic for the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipfinger Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 The ITR may one day feature in my garage yet......I'm quite impressed with the looks and purported performance of the Civic Type-R too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Originally posted by Flipfinger The ITR may one day feature in my garage yet......I'm quite impressed with the looks and purported performance of the Civic Type-R too Get a Jap Import Civic Type-R one if you can, UK spec is minus LSD, Recaros and the stiffened suspension of the J-spec. I have driven neither but can't imagine the UK spec one will be better than the tweaked J-spec one. Personally I think it looks like a bus, each to their own. Persoanlly I would got for the ITR (oops not biased honest), especially if your thinking of tuning, just too much stuff to mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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